Swain is frustrating to play against.

Mãge··8 votes·1,531 views

He's the old Ryze: tons of damage WHILE being tanky. I don't know how to play against him.

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Maximum Zilean4 votes

Easiest way to beat swain is to brutally murder him pre 6.

Either by constantly killing him, BrandLeblanc are perfect for this.

Or by constantly shoving the waves. (His last hitting under a tower is really bad) Malzahar Mordekaiser are good examples for wave pushers that beat him.

AFK Push4 votes

The best way is to snowball him pre6, and use items like item 3165 and use summoner 14 to counter his sustain. Pick somebody that can do these things and can cc him to prevent him from going all NEVERMORE on your ass. Malzahar is probably good considering his full combo rotation won't even allow swain to retaliate, and just flat out die.

Big Bang Bob4 votes

Have you tried knocking the cane out his hand?

GG Noob Team3 votes

Brand is his natural counter. Brand + morello = dead swain.

All Day Tay Tay3 votes

hes got VERY short range. his abilities are basically auto attack range or shorter. hes not mobile at all. his only cc is a teather slow and a delayed root. his ult burns mana VERY fast, so you either need full mana for a team fight or need to use it in bursts. reason hes tanky is that his ult has built in spellvamp, so just get ignite for that. his laning is very bad as his kit is basically all dots (mostly single target dots) and high mana costs. its not uncommon for swain to have the lowest cs by the mid game. do not trade with him. hes got 2 dots that are targeted. if you fight, you go all in.

Angelofchaos16x2 votes

Try to outrange him. Brand does very well against him. Brand can push him in well, and his combo has a 900 range, while swain only has 1 spell that has 900 range ( I know that it is the snare, but still, buy boots fast and dodge them) A lane bully works 2. Cassie and Xerath and nice agaist him. Cassie can Q E E E E E and before 6 he has no sustain. Xerath can sit under turret and just farm like a god. And pls, for the love of god, KILL HIM QUICKLY IN TEAM FIGHTS. He is one of the best, if not the best team fighters in the game.

epicbubble71 votes

Xerath is under played and Kassadin has a "k"

3TWarrior2 votes

he meant Cassiopeia unless this is a ? post

Angelofchaos16x1 votes

Sorry mate, Cassie is cassiopeia, wasn't clear.

Narasimha2 votes
  1. Buy item 3165
  2. Laugh.

Though on a more serious note, Swain has a key difference than Ryze. He has no mobility. Also, he has no burst at all. 2 of his moves are DoT, and his ult is essentially the same thing. He loves extended battles where his damage can rack up. So avoid picking those kinds of fights.

DarthSpectrum2 votes

Swain's abilities takes time to do damage and costs a ton of mana.

Most AD DPS champions can beat him by either out lasting him or out damaging him. Since AD champions can get LF, they can match Swain's healing somewhat. AP champions have ignite/Morro proc, but they general can't win if they trade abilities.

viken2 votes

Swain has been ridiculous for a really long time, and it's mystifying how nobody plays him.

TheI3igDaddy3 votes

Try last-hitting under tower as Swain for a few games and tell me you still want to play him and not literally anyone else.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

I honestly feel like I can last hit with Karthus and Anivia autos better than Swain's, there's just something really unintuitive about the way his auto attacks work.

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

Most likely it's the wind-up. He's always gotta move his hand back before he throws them. His base attack speed may also be on the low side.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

and riot has been slowly buffing him

Saianna2 votes

Never fight him near your mobs, or he'll heal faster Try to bait him to use mana & disengage If you have enough health attack as soon as he deactivates his R

Swain usually builds lots of mana with little mana regen. His mana-sustain comes from passive, so try to punish him when he tries to last hit

UPfreely2 votes

shove him to tower and have an impact on other lanes, whether it be warding, ganking or harassing their jungler.

Feathermane2 votes

You ignore him and focus on shoving the wave. His damage is only even noticeable if you stand in his crap for the whole duration early on. He's so reliant on getting multiple items, he's useless unless his jungler gets him fed.

terkmc2 votes

Dude have no waveclear and his cs'ing ability is literally the worst in the game

aaronautumn1 votes

run around in circles until he runs out of mana. flash into him when he hits level 3. idk what else.

Lugg1 votes

You pretty much have to get ahead of him before he hits 6. Otherwise it's going to be a long game.

7ha7guy7771 votes

Imagine playing against swain and malzahar in botlane

Puri Puri Taric1 votes

so is terik ? mad ?

epicbubble71 votes

bird is the word Swain Swain ( Anivia is a bird)

epicbubble71 votes

anditem 3190 is birdie

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

atleast ryze doesn't have spell vamp

qetzel1 votes

Yes he does... Am I missing a joke?

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

haha, move along son

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