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@Meddler Can we get a patch dedicated to Reworking stealth?

TheRakkun·6/30/2015, 8:13:37 PM·5 votes·783 views

Stealth has basically been regarded for most of it's entire lifetime as a toxic mechanic, which has caused a tonne of characters that use it to have been shoved into the mud and left there out of fear of being overpowered and broken, lets have a recap shall we?

Evelynn Released broken and then nerfed to oblivion, hardly any in-between currently VERY VERY VERY meh Rengar Broken on release, nerfed to oblivion then buffed back, becoming a niche pick. Vayne Always flipflopped between broken due to her insane damage and useless due to her squishiness. Shaco Broken on release but was kicked into the mud by crushing his lategame, not received a buff since april of last year and that was just an armour buff, his last big buff was March of 2012, fear at it's finest. Twitch Oh Twitch, probably the most interesting ADC, one of the game's first hypercarries, thrown to the ground and left to rot as one of the weakest ADCs in the game, and would you look at that, he has invisibility! Khazix I don't think this one needs too much of an explanation, it's only been recently that he's even started to show his face at all due to how weak he was before. Talon Generally regarded as the healthiest Assassin in the game, a large amount of his power budget is in his ult which grants invisibility, and talon's not seen the light of day in quite the while.

The only ones that i'm not really counting are: MonkeyKing Akali Teemo As they either are 100% clear in the fact they're invisible (Wukong's clone, Akali's Shroud, Teemo has to stand still), although a point could still be made for Wukong and Akali.

Now why is this? Other MobA's have stealth mechanics that are completely balanced, why is league different? Well to put it bluntly: Itemization. At the moment there are only 3 ways to reveal stealthed units: item 2043 item 3364 Raptor smite (But you have to have walked near a ward first)

This is an incredibly low pool of itemization for stealth and has lead to many champions being gutted simply due to the shallow variance in ways to deal with them, and it's only decreased since the removal of Oracles, item 3185item 3159 and the map restrictions of item 3187 means that until an update dedicated to the revamping of stealth you will have basically left a large amount of champions near useless.

9 Comments

OGMB6/30/2015, 8:18:08 PM1 votes

I agree. Many champions with stealth feel unfair, as I can't pink all the time just to see vayne tumbling. If you are behind, you are now spending an extra 100 which you may not get money back from a kill.

Stiv12346/30/2015, 8:27:49 PM1 votes

A cheaper Oracle for units only?

Mouse5346/30/2015, 9:47:17 PM1 votes

They were working on mandrake ward for this purpose, but that is currently shelved. The premise was that all it did was ping when someone went by, letting you know someone was there and that was it. They openly admitted to the itemization issues holding back stealth based champions, and I liked the ward idea to give them back power without taking a slot. I don't think they will get around to it for a while, what with the AP item changes coming.

BakedLotion6/30/2015, 9:51:16 PM1 votes

They need to make it like HotS. The stealthed champions can be seen through a SLIGHT shimmer. You can't be targetted, but you can still be hit by skillshots. I don't see why they cant do this. It works quite well as you can still see them if u try really hard, allows counterplay, and still allows u to move around without being spotted. And if they do this, proper buffs can be made since stealth now has counterplay besides "lol pink wards"