Can we just alter all instant damage abilities?

Punkkee··4 votes·909 views

I feel like this would be a good idea because if a champion's kit revolves around the skill being instant, wouldn't that kit be unhealthy? How do you dodge instant skills? :/ Anivia her e + r while e is in mid-air combo is kinda bs. Since the ult applies INSTANT slow, her e will do basically 400+ dmg BASE damage if anyone gets in range. Yea, she has no mobility but hey im just here to cry about instant damage abilities, not anivia :3 Amumu Speaking of crying, this guy has a huge range instant ult cc that lasts for 2 seconds. Annie ag Brand His stun is long because it needs to go through 2 conditions. 1, target must be aflare. 2, skillshot. but since e is instant you can q and e mid air and it'll stun :/ yea his entire combo kinda depends on his stun but how long does it take to throw down non-cast time abilities? the huge stun is redundant Karma ugh i see this bitch so often because of that instant snare its not even funny. Soraka instant silence Tryndamere instant slow and -ad. yea you can turn around to avoid it but cmon it's instant. i've never actually seen someone successfully dodge tryn's slow. only in theories Mordekaiser too many problems to discuss rn

these are just ideas of what the next instant damage ability alters should be (in my opinion) i think the changes to the old instant damagers really worked for the better (Corki Darius (maybe)Zilean Xerath Mordekaiser ) who misses playing vs old xerath? what about old zilean? old morde? old corki? not meee

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HEAljvLykd2 votes

You can literally qq about any champion. Just stop playing.

Punkkee3 votes

im not qqing about the champion im qqing about the ability to prove your point, can you qq about Sejuani to show me the possibility of qqing about any champion "litterally"

HEAljvLykd2 votes

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im not qqing about the champion im qqing about the ability to prove your point, can you qq about Sejuani to show me the possibility of qqing about any champion "litterally"

Her ult applies an instant slow/stun.... Her E instantly slows... You are just whining at this point...

Punkkee2 votes

what her ult isnt instant do you even play her do you know what instant abilities are

HEAljvLykd2 votes

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what her ult isnt instant her e doesnt instantly slow do you even play her

Her q has an instant knock up.... Alistar has instant stun, cc removal, instant push back.... You're crying about pointless things.

Punkkee2 votes

i wasn't talking about her q and i left alistar out for a reason.

RyzeRework3 votes

and you can bm a thread when you know some champions are broken and if u dont then you havent played enough league to write on this thread darius q heal isnt broken? his passive isnt broken? mordes q on 3rd hit hits like 1/2 somones hp with just tri force and dont say its hard to ge those 3 stacks 2 autos on a minion flash q ult death

Stellafreyja2 votes

Karma Instant Snare? She has to stay within range of you for 2 seconds in order to snare you. Far from instant.

Punkkee3 votes

by snare i was referring to the ability. not the actual cc. karma's dmg is instant and proceeds over time

Stellafreyja2 votes

Oh so you just hate all point-and-click abilities. Got it.

Punkkee2 votes

what kat's q is point and click the difference between kat's q and karma's snare is karma's is instant and kat has an animation EDIT: sorry karma's W. i never learn EDIT2: wait is it even w idek

Dio ßrando2 votes

Well all of them have channel times so idk they don't seem instant.

Punkkee2 votes

annie has channel time?

feryvunny2 votes

Those that you listed at the bottom were just ones that were easily able to get out of hand. Darius spam Q with no reaction time, zilean with the huge bomb range and instant cast. These cases were worse than the examples you gave.

  1. Anivia can do this because its her main source of burst. Every other mage has quicker cast time spells and an ultimate that does a giant burst of damage. She has no mobility, and her ult is DoT.
  2. Amumu is barely even played anymore idk why you are complaining about him. If you can't position yourself to not get ulted by him then you deserve what is coming
  3. Annie is understandable, but her R range is short to make up for the fact, which is why she is so reliant on Flash-Tibbers or really good positioning
  4. Brand, his Q is still a skill shot, whether he casts his E before or after. Dodge it. Otherwise, you deserve to be stunned
  5. Karma - lol why are you even THINKING of complaining about this. Idk what ELO you are in but karma is barely played. If you see her a lot then learn to play against her. Her snare is not instant and her "instant" damage is a 2s DoT and is negligible. Punish her for trying to snare you. Otherwise you deserve to be snared
  6. Soraka - Um....ok..how about you walk out of it?
  7. Tryndamere - It's his only source of CC and it has the condition of needing the enemys back. You want to just nerf it to the ground? This means he can't use it for duels/escapes, only chases. Learn to play around it
  8. Morde - His problem isn't "instant damage" its his Exp passive, tankiness, and Q damage.

Don't ask riot for a gargantuan rework like this and put up sad examples to back it up.

Punkkee2 votes

man there's a way to post opinions without seeming rude sure i see what you mean about anivia. But other champions such as xerath have high damage high risk type abilities where anivia has point and click 400 base dmg amumu is played alot, i'm not really sure what you mean. maybe there's a difference in elos but im not gonna put that in effective. how do you position yourself to not get ulted? it's a big radius around him, and it's instant. also he has an initiate, and if that fails, flash every 5 minutes I hugely disagree with your point on brand. "deserveing" to be stunned for such a long time is too redundent, as i've said. It's like having anivia's q be 10 seconds but super slow animation and if you get hit you "deserve" to die. With soraka, sure walk out of it but the silence is still instant How do you play aroudn tryn, teach me. Tryn has a diverse e and heal. Plus an ult with huge utility. i was actually referring to old morde where his spammable e will do 300 dmg instantly.

There are some points that bug me, such as "deserving" to snare as Karma or "deserving" to be stunned. Especially in plat, skillshots dodging is a little different and predicting these dodges pretty much make a 50% chance of juking the correct direction. if brand is fed enough, 50% of dying. Karma has ms to help with her snare.

  1. I left out a lot of champions with instant damage because it will require too much kit reworkingAlistar i'm not asking for gargantuan reworks, i'm asking to add counterplay to instant abilities. this isnt the first time instant abilities have been a problem. that's where i bring up xerath again
HEAljvLykd1 votes

Learn to play the game. Less crying please.

shadowkiller5x51 votes

sharing opinion is crying? guess you're crying about this thread huh

Maximum Morde1 votes

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Karma ugh i see this bitch so often because of that instant snare its not even funny.

YO Punkkee, I respect you and ima let you finish, but Karma snare requires you to hold the tether on a target without going out of range for two seconds. It ain't instant buddy.

shadowkiller5x51 votes

he said "by snare i was referring to the ability. not the actual cc. karma's dmg is instant and proceeds over time"

shadowkiller5x51 votes

why is everyone disagreeing i mean how do you play against instant abilities

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