Watching Riot balance Zoe is like watching a toddler pretend they didn't shit behind the couch.

Holgranth·Jul 29, 2018·3 votes·997 views

It ain't getting any better. You can't pretend it isn't what it smells like. You need to clean it up and never do it again.

Gut Zoe. Rework her from the ground up and re-release her. There has been endless feedback on why she's frustrating, unfair and utterly bullshit. Fix it. Watching her get free item actives and summoner spells is not fun. Trying to exist while she fishes for kills from complete safety with meaningless cool-downs is not fun.

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Colton147Jul 29, 20183 votes

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vgamedudeJul 29, 20181 votes

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is a very mechanically intensive champion and has a high skill ceiling.

She's been gutted with her nerfs and is badly in need of compensation buffs.

49% win rate: http://na.op.gg/champion/zoe/statistics/mid

This but unironically

Beatrice fallsJul 29, 20182 votes

Riot's ideas are retarded tbh, I'm glad some people still stop them. Do you know that before release, Kindred ult was supposed to be an instant execute of anyone without any threshold ? Like you hit the spell and the enemy dies, even if he just respawned. When you hear that Riot has this kind of ideas before releasing champions, you start to realize they don't understand the concept of a pvp game

DuskDaUmbreonJul 29, 20182 votes

To be fair, that does sound like a very good idea for a gameplay/lore-integrated champion.

Kindred are supposed to be death, so their ultimate is instant fucking death. Fits far better with their theme than their current ultimate, honestly.

In all seriousness, though, pre-release is just a time for testing cool ideas. It's to see what's cool, and then from there figure out what works. An ultimate that causes instant fucking death sounds cool on paper, even if it'd be shitty in practice.

But so an employee suggests that. It's terrible, because it's broken as fuck, but he suggests it anyways because it sounds cool. Another employee looks at it, and thinks of a better way to handle it. Add a threshhold, make it super hard to hit (Maybe require hitting all 5 enemies?), or some other way to balance it. Another one refines the idea.

Just because it came up in a brainstorming session hardly means they're idiotic...

Beatrice fallsJul 29, 20181 votes

Well Zoe Yasuo have been released so...