Why Are So Many People Complaining About Mana...

Epilogue of Life·1/19/2015, 7:31:53 PM·3 votes·1,462 views

So Riot won't let you build to become a resourceless champion now, end of the world?? Mana is actually doing its job gating the power of ridiculous poke champions now, is that a bad thing?

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ChargeItDownMid1/19/2015, 7:55:26 PM6 votes

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Too Ton1/19/2015, 7:39:29 PM4 votes

Assassins are dominating because poke can't get them to a point where it's a risk to dive

Sharkb81/19/2015, 7:41:36 PM4 votes

Because when you nerf mana regen all around, but don't balance out the other champs that don't use mana, you break it.

Leblancs Boob1/19/2015, 7:52:22 PM3 votes

Champions like Zed, Akali, Fizz, Kat already dominated mages before the mana regen nerf.. but now they're practically unstoppable. The only viable mid lane mage at this point is Azir.

Drunk Rummate1/19/2015, 7:46:08 PM3 votes

It's not that mana gating is a problem. It removed a toxic playstyle that revolved around permanent waveclear, which is good.

The problem is that it nerfed almost every single AP mage to a point where their powerspike is heavily delayed or irrelevant compared to that of a resourceless champion.

balbraaksel1/19/2015, 7:56:04 PM3 votes

Champions were buffed and nerfed around the items that offered significant mana regeneration, nerfing those items destroyed that balance.

The mana regeneration items were relatively cheap compared to other AP items, so it was an easily obtainable stat in the early/mid game making abilities spammable meaning their early/mid game would be extremely strong if Riot hadn't limited/nerfed the early/mid game on AP champions their abilities. (not only base damage/ratio's but also how easily the abilities are possible to hit and the ability cooldowns) Because they're not compensated, their early and mid game has become worse or for some just plain terrible.

Diostukos1/19/2015, 8:03:55 PM3 votes

Funny how you have the Assassin icon :^)

I'm not saying mages should never have to worry about mana, but if mages can't use their spells early game why should things like Zed get to use their spells freely and have great laning.

I could get item 3070, but then Zed gets item 3134 and now I don't do any damage.

I could try to poke him down, or push the wave to his tower, but wait, his passive pretty much guarantees him last hits.

Right now there is no trade-off to being Energy-based or Resource-less, while Mana users are having a much harder time than before.

Epilogue of Life1/19/2015, 7:52:06 PM1 votes

I dunno, like all the people are assuming that mages are designed to be on equal grounds with someone like a Zed from lvl 1 to lvl 18...Zed's supposed to have and edge in lane...he's supposed to be a strong laner.

Epilogue of Life1/19/2015, 8:18:43 PM1 votes

Yea, I'm done with this bs, these people are asking for Tryndamere to be on par with Jax in lane. Please google the word "counter". Please understand that you are supposed to be at a disadvantage because assassins counter mages and ADCs...