@Riot Nasus Q mana cost

fasega·9/14/2015, 4:55:29 AM·1 votes·1,238 views

I have been wondering if it is possible to have Nasus Q refund the mana if you kill the unit you attack. The reason I bring this up is because I have noticed that even when I am only using my Q to CS and farm up my stacks I run out very quickly. I find it strange that Nasus is punished so heavily for using a part of my kit as intended. I understand his other 3 spells being mana gated to keep his power in check and to prevent spamming but this doesn't make sense when it comes to using his Q as its suppose to be spammed.

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galdamesh9/14/2015, 5:12:30 AM7 votes

His q costs 20 mana...

the mana from glacial shroud alone lets you cast it 12 times, not including any regen or base mana.

not sure how you're running oom just casting Q but at lvl 1 it has an 8 second cd so down to 4 at lvl 5

so even casting it on CD everytime with base regen it should only cost you 12 mana and nasus has 276 mana at lvl 1. so you could cast it 23 times at lvl one on cd before running oom.

franticFurball9/14/2015, 5:23:33 AM2 votes

I am saying this as a Nasus Main: Lets not do that.

Nasus is one of the few mana-using champions, for whom Mana is actually a limiting factor. That's how it is supposed to be, that's why I consider Ahris laning phase broken (because she doesn't care, unless shes spaming foxfire, mana is never an issue on Ahri).

With Nasus, the ressurce balance is perfect. Q does drain him, but very slowly, if he uses wither and Spirit Fire a lot, he runs out.

And before anyone tries to convince me that I am wrong: I am playing Nasus with the SirhcEz - Build, meaning 20% CDR at level 1. I am using Q on every single cooldown almost instantly (That's how you get 360 stacks by 18 minutes even if you get camped by the enemy jungler ^^)

Only Play Darius9/14/2015, 5:16:09 AM2 votes

That might be asking a bit too much. I main Nasus but this is something he definitely doesn't need.

1011001110009/14/2015, 6:09:05 AM2 votes

That's a bull-faced lie. It cost 20 mana. How the hell is that a high-cost for a spell you're spamming? If anything, the fact that you're going oom has to do with the way you're playing, and not because his Q has a stupid 20 mana cost.

If you really do have trouble, just buy a mana pot. Those do exist.

KVbqbFsC8e9/14/2015, 6:27:33 AM1 votes

Thats really not an issue. The only time you'll ever run out of mana just from Q is free farming for the first 20 minutes of the game before your first back.

Vhalthoria9/14/2015, 11:46:23 AM1 votes

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I have been wondering if it is possible to have Nasus Q refund the mana if you kill the unit you attack. The reason I bring this up is because I have noticed that even when I am only using my Q to CS and farm up my stacks I run out very quickly. I find it strange that Nasus is punished so heavily for using a part of my kit as intended. I understand his other 3 spells being mana gated to keep his power in check and to prevent spamming but this doesn't make sense when it comes to using his Q as its suppose to be spammed.

You are either playing too aggressively or aren't simply properly managing your mana. The answer for your suggestion is simply, No.

EndlessSorcerer9/14/2015, 7:32:22 PM1 votes

I like playing Nasus, but this is a horrible idea.

If you are only Q farming, you shouldn't have any mana issues until you have 40% CDR and start stacking every minion in a wave, and even then it takes many waves to reach that point. In extending laning, it can be an issue (as it should), but the cost is so minimal that it's rarely an issue.

Considering Nasus typically builds mana (Either Iceborn Gauntlet or Trinity Force and Frozen Heart), you shouldn't be having any mana problems unless you are using Wither or Spirit Fire too liberally.

I use 20% CDR in runes and masteries and even using Q off cooldown, I don't have mana issues in lane unless I overuse Wither (or Spirit Fire) when fighting.

It may not be a bad idea to slightly increase is base or scaling mana regen, but it's not necessary. His win rate may have decreased recently, but that is more due to the effectiveness of "Juggernauts" against him.

Cowgirl Ed9/15/2015, 8:20:25 PM1 votes

you should only last hit the minions with Q not damage them lol

Koldheartedjsp9/14/2015, 5:13:34 AM1 votes

um wut

with 40 cdr, even if you Q on cooldown it's very hard to run OOM unless you're spamming e and w constantly

why do you think it should refund mana?

Haven't played nasus in awihle but lets just pretend he's super weak and he needs a buff. This is in no way a buff

SaltyKracka9/14/2015, 5:16:12 AM1 votes

Eh, I'd rather they just buffed his base mana regen.

I mean, stacking the right way certainly can eat up his mana, but his mana costs are already so ridiculously lopsided that base mana regen is probably a better way to tackle it.

General Esdeath 9/14/2015, 5:41:54 AM1 votes

So you're asking for a buff on Nasus's "mana issue" with his Q? Wtf?