Boards›Gameplay

What a joke this game has become, honestly.

Kuronii Lumiira·12/5/2017, 2:23:20 AM·31 votes·1,014 views

I thought everyone complaining about the game was just not giving it enough time, but it's such bullshit now. Bases are getting pushed on before 20 minutes, and we have to forfeit tower control because we're not allowed to purchase homeguards anymore. No, we have to wait until they're on our nexus turrets to be able to engage on them, for sure.

Damage is out of control, and it's not worth it to play a bruiser or tank anymore because it's simply not satisfying. There's no real way to protect against the absurd damage ramping. There's absolutely no space for personal skill expression anymore, either. One lane loses and they snowball from there, even if you take "reverse-snowball objectives" like Rift Herald or Baron.

In my last two games, I didn't even get to build a second item fully before they were knocking on the doors to our base. What nonsense is this?

And Rioters, you want suggestions instead of idle ranting? Fix damage values. Add in more rewarding/satisfying runes for tanks. Damage dealers get access to Dark Harvest, Aerie, Press the Attack -- What do tanks get? +5 Armor or +5 MR. Or they get to delay resistances until 10 minutes -- well past when the games are decided these days. In addition, tune down the damage. With how much free damage you get in Sorcery or Domination, there's no real reason to play anything but a damage dealer. Even Aerie, a support-focused keystone, dishes out about 2k damage a game.

tl;dr: Tune down damage, make playing a tanky build more satisfying, allow more options for personal skill expression (i.e: give us more tools to help bring our team to victory instead of bogging us down with up to four people who may not even know how to play the game well in a particular way)

18 Comments

NekoniClaws12/5/2017, 1:34:41 PM7 votes

Damage: Here! Have a front-loaded burst damage! And back loaded burst damage! Adaptive damage! Penetration! Ridiculous attack speed! And did I mention the built in Mejais(es) that can't be shut down!?

Tank: Ta-nk? You can have an itty bitty bit of armor. But you're gonna' work for it.

Bruiser: Guess since you can't make 100% effective use of either of those and there are no hybrid runes you can just uninstall league.

Support: You wanted damage right? RIGHT? SONA DO DAMAGE!!! Oh crud we need to nerf Sona guys.

[sg-ahri-1]

TRY CARRYING from any role but damage.

I play with lower elo friends, my support winrates have been shot in the kneecaps. Best player on my team - now exp starved and guaranteed on one of the classes that can't snowball. My winrate on Leona is trashed, because hey, my adc is as fed as a thanksgiving turkey! But they don't have my gamesense; infact the more fed you get a bronze adc, the worse they'll play. Ironically teams will now fall apart quicker without a backline than without a frontline.

Meanwhile, I go damage support- BAM. GUARANTEED carry. Not even joking. 93% winrate on Lux. Lux is a BAD SUPPORT, but BOY can she solocarry. Similar winrate on Morganna. 60% on Jhin support, yeah, that's a thing now.

deadlychuck12/6/2017, 5:29:09 AM4 votes

People hide behind the whole "rose tended glasses argument", but I've seriously got to wonder if games have actually gotten worse over the past 10 years or so... Like, looking at a lot of genres and franchises things seem to just be getting overwhelmingly worse.

Oldschool Runescape seems to be outliving the new version.

I regularly joke with my guild mates that GW1 will outlive GW2 in terms of popularity.

WoW completely turned away its own playerbase with their attempts to improve the game.

The Halo series (while changing developers) still managed to lose a lot of it's satisfaction and flexibility.

League just seems to be following in the same shoes as WoW (which is more an iterative release rather than a title release), where it's just going to "improve" it's designs and systems, by completely changing them one at a time, while just sweeping what's being discarded under the rug. They act like the new systems and designs are objectively superior and sacrifice nothing for the changes, but there's no such thing as free change. If you want to improve something, then you've got to be honest about what you're giving up and riot is completely dishonest, to the players and themselves, about those exact details of changes they make.

kaironen12/5/2017, 2:36:58 AM3 votes

I just want to say that the resolve tree and the inspiration tree (except klepto, that keystone is honestly op and needs a nerf) is balanced. The sorcery, domination, and precision tree is what needs nerfed. Press the attack, electrocute, coup de grace, last stand and cut down (probably nerfs due to dmg amp), triumph, sudden impact, takedowns should probably be changed a little for snowballing purposes, manaflow band, scorch, aerial, and comet are probably the ones that are op currently. Also, riot needs to give magic resist to everyone except mages, since mages need a bit of armor (they already got hp/lvl).

And btw, this is preseason. This is the time of the year that is the least balanced since there are a ton of new changes. Every preseason was unbalanced. This could be the worst in terms of balance due to how many things they added in stats, runes, etc. but I have hope that riot will fix the current issues and the game will be balanced again. Also, in terms of in season balancing, riot sometime buffs champs that don't need buffs to keep the game fresh and evolving so that it doesn't ever become stale. It can also be due to certain champs not being played a lot.

Tactrix12/5/2017, 7:51:15 PM3 votes

Yes sir you are correct, this game has become a broken pile of shit, and rito couldn't care less about fixing it.

Darkeus12/6/2017, 12:15:58 AM2 votes

Yeah this Preseason is not fun and totally imbalanced. Just not fun at all. I am looking for a new MOBA for now. But to be honest, i just want this broken mess fixed.

I Love Roses12/5/2017, 3:15:17 PM2 votes

Dude tank are so busted.... play ornn....

Noblewind12/5/2017, 5:43:15 PM1 votes

I used to feel this way too and strongly but I've honestly been enjoying this preseason a lot. If I only have 2 hours or so to play it's great that you can reliably fit 3 full games in. Tbh even when the game wasn't as snowbally a couple of seasons ago, many games were still decided in the laning phase, that's not new, you'd just have to spend even more time waiting for it to end.

Sraeg201312/6/2017, 7:21:55 PM1 votes

Pfft. Second item?

I had a game where I couldn't get the first item, before having all my lane towers lost. And the joke is, it was done by two people only and we won the game in a massive stomp.

By 15th minute all top towers and inhibitor were gone, the first tower fell at 6th fucking minute of the game. The fun part is that it literally was gone from full HP in 10 seconds. At 6:20. There was no physical way for anybody else to rotate to defend.

CrackShack12/6/2017, 2:25:08 AM1 votes

This entire game has been shit on because of a greedy urge to conform to the common theme of games these days. I honestly hope this game dies, they don't deserve shit.

GE Loyalty12/5/2017, 2:12:37 PM1 votes

The game is fun, maybe you just aren't good enough to keep up with the changes...