Ivern's Ult should be nerfed after release

Milodic Mellodi·Sep 21, 2016·1 votes·1,024 views

Just watched a guy play AP Ivern Jungle. 53 minutes into his video he goes and solos the Elder Dragon with just his Ult and E (shielding his Ult), as well as his Q whenever its cooldown reset. He didn't move, he just stood in a bush he made and had his Ult take all the damage -- the worst part is that his Ult was only around half health at the end of the fight, and it regenerated all its health at around 200-300 hps after the fight. Even if there are Champs that can solo Elder Dragon, they can't do it with the ease that Ivern can because it deals too much damage and is far too tanky not to take quite a bit of damage in general. Let alone it being as easy as standing still and using a few abilities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E34AflPPiL0 if you want to watch. 52:57 is when the fight starts.

3 Comments

YrzenSep 21, 20161 votes

Elder Dragon isn't actually that hard to solo. All you need is some lifesteal, self-healing or minions to tank for you. I've seen a single Zyra set up seeds in a dragon pit and take Elder Dragon when it spawned by herself in about three seconds.

Elder Dragon has similar damage to any other dragon. The difficulty in taking it in the fact that it takes longer to take down than other dragons, making it more contestable.

Milodic MellodiSep 21, 20161 votes

I always thought it did far more damage. Like, more than a dragon was supposed to even when calculating level scaling. I had also thought its attack was AoE, but I was wrong there too, so... Anyhow, you don't even need to set up with Ivern though. The only things you need are a bush and an Ult, apparently.

YrzenSep 22, 20161 votes

Elder Dragon only does slightly more damage. Around the same as an air dragon, give or take.

Reminder that Heimerdinger, Nidalee, a fed Sona/Nami, anything with lifesteal, (adcs, junglers, some AD casters...) and even a good amount of AD junglers without lifesteal can solo it without an ult.