Why did they change Ascension?

Milodic Mellodi·Aug 12, 2016·11 votes·1,534 views

So I've been playing a few games of Ascension, and what I've noticed is becoming Ascended is no longer based on who kills Xerath, but instead on who stands closest to the middle of the map. Seriously? What happened to "we want League of Legends to be a skill-based game"? Ascension no longer really takes skill, but has now instead become a shovefest. In a game where you can't "shove" people out of the way, and champs like , , , etc, can freely screw over your team's chances of winning by forcing you out of the middle. Seriously though, WHY? Why did they think this change was a good idea? April Fools was over more than 4 months ago, Riot.

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ErockandrollAug 12, 20166 votes

Why did they think this change was a good idea?

Probably because they didn't want the game to end up being an endless contest of Baron steals. To make Teamfights over the buff more interesting. (Considering that Ascension is so powerful, fighting it and securing it is almost never a throw) It also make the buff more tactical, cause if the team isn't completely greedy. They can actually put the buff on someone who synergizes best with it, instead of who ever is best at sniping it with the best Last hitting tool.

The only way this screws me up, is that I typically play Karthus. So the Sniping Ascension during Death's defile, won't bring me back to life like it use to.

Milodic MellodiAug 12, 20161 votes

Wouldn't "an endless contest of Baron steals" be a good thing, since SR is typically the most-played mode of LoL? And should this be taken to mean that only Tanks or CC Mages should be able to get the Ascension? You make mention about people and greed in here, but you know as well as I do that's not how it works in public servers. Not only are both teams scrambling to the middle to try and get Ascended, but both teams are scratching and clawing at each other, at their own teammates, to get in the middle so they could get Ascended. I suppose if there's enough of a skill gap, this way of doing things makes it easier to get a Perfect Ascension, but I wonder if they even have that anymore. EDIT: I suppose this also makes Yorick able to be played on Ascension since there's no issues with last-hitting, right?

ErockandrollAug 12, 20161 votes

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Wouldn't "an endless contest of Baron steals" be a good thing, since SR is typically the most-played mode of LoL? And should this be taken to mean that only Tanks or CC Mages should be able to get the Ascension? You make mention about people and greed in here, but you know as well as I do that's not how it works in public servers. Not only are both teams scrambling to the middle to try and get Ascended, but both teams are scratching and clawing at each other, at their own teammates, to get in the middle so they could get Ascended. I suppose if there's enough of a skill gap, this way of doing things makes it easier to get a Perfect Ascension, but I wonder if they even have that anymore. EDIT: I suppose this also makes Yorick able to be played on Ascension since there's no issues with last-hitting, right?

Well Ascension isn't like SR, the win conditions are very very different.

I Guess for starters. In SR, you can actually grant vision. So the team who has the advantage in the Baron Take, can easily spot opponents and take appropriate actions. (wave off baron, Zone away Jungler)

Riots intentions were to prevent the buff from being a trap, which is why they were trying to require more control over it to actually secure it.

Also, I didn't necessarily mean tanks and CC mages. I simply mean anyone who synergized with as many of the stats that the Ascension buff gave you. And since Ascension buff gives you 2 points instead of one, means you Ascended character should be good a securing kills.

Milodic MellodiAug 12, 20161 votes

Well, I agree on the vision part. And the buff still is technically a trap, but that won't change because it's part of Ascension's gameplay. Though I didn't mean Tanks and CC Mages as being synergizing with Ascension, I mean that they're the only ones who are safe enough to get to the middle and get Ascended.

SwiftKitten88Aug 12, 20164 votes

i LOVED ascension and i HATE this change. they COMPLETELY ruined ascension this patch. it it wasnt just that change... the removal of the 2 bot bushes.. the 5 points from ascended lower to 3. the speed boost you now get for killing players... ALL of these changes are bad..

NaeniaAug 12, 20161 votes

You're thinking of the mode "Definitely Not Dominion". Ascention has remained the same.

Edit: Nevermind. I just saw the post from Riot that you have to collect the relic now. My bad!

ErockandrollAug 12, 20162 votes

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You're thinking of the mode "Definitely Not Dominion". Ascention has remained the same.

Your not paying attention to the public beta environment.

And the changes to Ascension are even listed in the "Rotating Game mode" tab in the News section.

NaeniaAug 12, 20162 votes

You're not paying attention to my edit which I made before you replied to my comment.

dapositivevikingAug 13, 20161 votes

whenever i play ascension, i choose olaf bc in the older version ulting into the ascended fight and bursting with your q-e can pretty much secure the buff. all the changes together make the game feel weider and slower, but that one change was to reduce frustration made by a couple champs like nunu, cho, etc.