Hear so many people say this and now this girl on the IEM Cologne stream keeps saying how Mundo outscales any jungler and becomes a lategame monster. He is actually bad lategame...his winrate rapidly decreases the longer the game goes. http://champion.gg/champion/DrMundo
TehNACHO2 votesBecause people like to say things that aren't supported by facts just because they feel it is so.
ForgiveColour2 voteslate game right now is like 30-40mins
ModKnightsKemplar1 votesI would argue even sooner.
But either way, the definition of "late game" has changed. That's for sure.
ForgiveColour2 votesyeah its like around 3 item mark is usually when the nexus explode
Abyssphere1 votesWell how people scale in regular games and in competitive games differs, anyway. If you watched that stream you saw that Mundo didn't do a single thing in the early game but was a monster in late game team fights, while in regular games Mundo tends to be 5/0 before 10 minutes and "falls off" late in the sense that people eventually catch up to his ridiculousness.
Caffeint1 votesHe is stronger with items
AyRe CoNteMpT1 voteswhat a bullshit from all sides here :D
mundo IS a lategame champion in the sense that his kit is extremely effective with items (aka scales good) but his biggest powerspike is at 2,5 - 3 items. he doesnt actually super duper outscale anyone after that.
also, mundos role after 2/3 items changes from a fighter to a tank and basically nobody knows how to tank properly with mundo, this is why his winrate falls off with time.
right now, hes decent in jungle and unlaneable. i wouldnt play him.
Hard4Hamsters1 votesMundo is kinda just OP right now. I think people have this misplaced powerspike on champions that are known to have had a strong lategame before a major change to them. Remember Ryze? People were calling him a "lategame" champion when he was dominating the early game with his perma snare and would actually fall off later due to people being able to effectively lock him down and focus him. He was nerfed a few times and now he has a pretty weak early game (in general) and a pretty strong mid to lategame, after about 25-30 minutes. The same thing I think is happening with Mundo to some extent, but I think there is something else to this statement.
Look at other junglers right now. They are primarily early game pressure junglers who try to snowball the other lanes with their presence. Mundo on the other hand, is a terrible ganker and doesn't really do anything except counter-gank, invade, and farm his way to the midgame where he will be a very dangerous force to be reckoned with. So really, he DOES outscale every other jungler because he is meant to scale and be a real threat himself as opposed to his teammates when it comes to mid and lategame. Given I think that all Mundo players take Strength of Ages and Cinderhulk in the jungle, he will have a very impressive midgame which is where a lot of junglers start to fall off.
Bottomline. I think Mundo is OP right now, particularly in Solo Queue because he can carry so hard based almost purely around his kit's power. The E change was so substantial to him and I don't think many people realized how much that change would affect him. We now have a Mundo that has CONSIDERABLY more damage (particularly burst) and due to preseason changes, has become very hard to kill.
