aswell as the 7th highest pickrate out of 126 champs. In Diamond she has the 4th highest pickrate and highest winrate out of champs with more than 1000 games played.
But yes, let's pretend she is balanced....and yeah I just lost to an Ahri who ended up with 23 kills and I totally feel I didn't lose to a player but rather to the champ he picked.
YCitizenSnipsY6 votes"and yeah I just lost to an Ahri who ended up with 23 kills and I totally feel I didn't lose to a player but rather to the champ he picked."
Well you see op you're the type to come to the boards and cry when you loose, so nerfing Ahri isn't going to solve your problem. You'll just be back here next week to complain about what ever takes here place.
Honestly this game is not for you, getting this emotional isn't good for you. It's time to move on.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesTalk to me once you have figured out how this game works.
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The Bíg Ticket1 votesDo you even know what emotional means?
I am presenting you facts...it is a fact she has the highest winrate in the game despite being picked by almost anyone and it is also a fact that people who play her for the first time in ranked win over 52 percent of their games with her.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesAnd when she's gone someone else will take her place. You will get rolf-stomped again and be right back here with this same thread about how who ever else needs to be nerfed. There's never not gonna be a strongest champion.
But I'm not here to talk about Ahri, I'm here to tell you to stop playing the game. When normal people loose, we play another match or stop playing for the day. We don't get so affected by it that we run to a board looking for sympathy from random strangers over a single loss.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesI don't need no sympathy...I am stating a fact. Ahri is too strong at the moment. And actually I don't get roflstomped...tbh I am probably alot better than you at this game and I doubt you even have a clue about champion balance.
MohawkBird2 votesBut let's be honest here, Ahri is kinda broken right now, and OP is showing the facts behind it to prove it.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesNever denied Ahri was a problem. He admitted the reason behind making this thread is because he's butt-hurt over a loss. Today its Ahri tomorrow its who ever takes her place as the most op champion. There's always gonna be strong picks, crying about losing to one wont help him I'm just here to tell him to quit crying.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesHave I ever made a thread because I lost to a certain champion? Mind proving your bold accusations? I can make up stuff about you too if you want....don't you feel ashamed for doing that?
I have been telling people Ahri is op for weeks, go check my post and thread history. You are a pathetic person who is fishing for upvotes and has no intention to even contribute anything to this thread....
Kikirino5 votesHow is it that you claim Ahri has the highest winrate, then cite Champion.gg but champion.gg says Heimer has the highest winrate while Ahri sits at 13th highest.
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Kikirino1 votesAgain, why cite champion.gg if it is not the source you are using? Do you know how citing facts in an argument works?
You are only here to bitch because you lost to someone that is better than you but to protect your precious pride and feelings you are blaming the champion rather than your lack of skill compared to your opponent. Anyone reading any of your posts can come to the exact same conclusion.
Riot themselves have stated that the game is balanced toward high level play. Therefore, champion.gg is a more valid source for winrates than lolking. Now, you have two options, keep whining on a forum full of people smart enough to invalidate your complaints and continue to look like a petty child or accept the fact that this player is better than you and move on.
The Bíg Ticket3 votesI cited champion.gg to show how players who play Ahri for the first time win 52 percent of their games with her.
I have been telling people how broken Ahri is weeks ago...it has nothing to do with the recent game. Even if you go on champion.gg you see that Ahri has the 3rd highest winrate out of all midlaners while having the highest pick rate out of any midlane champs and out of all the champs that have a higher winrate than her (from all roles) only Janna has a higher pickrate than Ahri.
This has nothing to do with a single player being better, it is about a champ. You see the numbers yourself, there is no denying the fact that no other champ enjoys such a high winrate despite being picked so often, even by people who don't "main" her. If you can pick a champ you have never played in ranked before and have a 52 percent chance to win the game what does that tell you about the champ? For comparison, Azir has like a 42 percent winrate for players who have 1-5 ranked games on him.
1000angrybees1 votesI've come to the conclusion that with EVERY site having all DIFFERENT statistics- including some of the same charts in the same categories- that i literally don't give a shit about non-cohesive data that changes practically every couple of hours.
MohawkBird1 votesSites show statistics with different cut offs. LoLKing shows the win-rate as a whole through all divisions, while the champion gg link he posted only shows Plat+. It's not that the actual win rate are different, it's that they had different criteria for each one.
Vistha Kai1 votesYou forgot the fact LoLking has stats for NA, EU and Brazil, while Champion.gg for NA, EU and Korea.
Bronzoid4 votesAhri mains will tell you she's balanced
Vistha Kai2 votesI'm not an Ahri main and I will tell you she's balanced.
FailedEXE4 votesEvery time I hear any jokers like you OP that use Win Rate and Popularity as an excuse to why you lost to a certain champion, I just want to vomit. Annie, Jinx, and Blitzcrank are not very far statically behind Ahri but whats their ban rate? Exactly.
That is the only statistic that matters. Ahri is sitting at 5%. Twisted Fate, of all champions has a ban rate higher then her. Elise is at 78%, Irelia at 39%, Rengar at 52%, Viktor nearing 30%, Fizz at 26%.
That is what you morons choose to ignore. The fucking ban stat.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesRofl what are you even talking about? Have you ever thought about the idea that a high banrate might exclude a high pickrate? Also Annie and Jinx are as broken as Ahri with the exception that you can actually kill them.
Prospector Pete3 votesIf she's so OP why don't you play/ban her?
The Bíg Ticket4 votesI ban her when I am first pick...I don't play her because I prefer champs that are more straightforward.
So tell me what it means for one of the most popular champs (7th out of 126) to have the highest winrare in the game? People who play her for the 1st - 5th time in ranked have a 52.7% winrate with her. http://champion.gg/champion/Ahri
Look at the other top 10 popular champs and compare their winrates:
Sammystorm3 votes13th highest win rate and 1st highest win rate are the same thing :/
http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend
All though Champion.gg is mediocre at telling those types of stats.
Here is a better list
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na&type=champion-winrate&range=daily&map=sr&queue=1x1
The Bíg Ticket1 votesThis site uses stats from Plat+ which you dont even belong too..90 percent of the playerbase are Bronze, Silver and Gold.
Lol...you are looking at North America and Daily...NA is not even a top 3 server.
Go to All Regions and weekly:
Sammystorm1 votesThe stats I used were specifically from all ranks. You are correct in stating that weekly produces better data.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesAll ranks yes, but not all regions. You only looked at North America.
Sammystorm1 votesIts almost like we are on the NA boards.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesIt's almost like NA only is a small part of the LoL community and neither the biggest nor one of the best Servers..so why would you balance based on NA data only?
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It's almost like NA only is a small part of the LoL community and neither the biggest nor one of the best Servers..so why would you balance based on NA data only?
You just single handily destroyed what little to no credibility you had left with this moronic comment.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesLol...is anything I said wrong? Is NA the biggest server? Is NA the server with the highest level of play?
Why would you use data from the NA server only instead from all regions when you are trying to make a balance argument? Are the patches only for NA?
FailedEXE1 votes[{quoted}](name=Danielas Kitten,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jtqE0mvh,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-09T20:19:18.297+0000)
Lol...is anything I said wrong? Is NA the biggest server? Is NA the server with the highest level of play?
Why would you use data from the NA server only instead from all regions when you are trying to make a balance argument? Are the patches only for NA?
Where the fuck are you coming with these assumptions that I am basing my sources on one region and what does server population or high level of play have to do with champion balance?
More importantly, did I not specifically say that BAN rate is the only relevant stat to determine a champion’s balance? When I weigh my sources, I ignore win rate and popularity altogether and weigh ban rates across ALL regions. Not just North America. Why? Because the players prioritize certain champions over others as to what they do NOT want to play against. Not what they could potentially win or lose to.
Win rate and popularity is irrelevant. Your logic and every other moron that tries put up example, cherry pick a stat, and making an excuse…. “They are just as broken, but at least you can kill them.” Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Do yourself a favor, and never talk about champion balance ever again.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesYou replied to the wrong comment rofl.
Sammystorm1 votesYes and since these are the north american servers the NA stats are all that are particularly relevant to the NA server
The Bíg Ticket1 votesOk...so we balance all champions for the NA server only...cause you americans are the center of everything lmao.
Sammystorm1 votesCome to the NA boards and bash americans. Good plan OP
Blastumz2 votesWell she is probably the strongest champion in the game. Not sure what you expected.
1000angrybees2 voteszzzzzzzzzz
these win rate threads are getting old
MohawkBird3 votesWin-rate alone doesn't mean anything obviously, but when you pair that with the highest pick rate in the game then there is a problem.
OperationDEEZ11 votesNo. Mid Heimer does. Second goes to Top Heimer.
Matezoide1 votesWasnt this at +20?
Lol
Ahri licks Lux1 votesthis is stupid and you are stupid
heimerdonger highest win rate omg nerf most viable champion eu na kr jp tr br ru ALEALELAELAEALELAELA.
Ahri isn't that good, people that main her are more dedicated to her cus shes hot and kids are nerds so they need to get closer to foxy-girl and end up playing her better, thats just how it is. Also that win-rate thing is retarded as hell, look at how many other champions have the same win rate as her / almost the same, why dont you cry about them too
sobi9991 votesI can confirm with the guy who made this thread. I am soraka/Lux main and i thought lux was the easiest champ to play while soraka is very hard to play at the moment. When i played my first game with ahri, i felt like she was tooo easy to play with and so easy to get kills with. Since i was lux main, skill based abilities were not a problem for me but i actually did feel that ahri was too strong considering it was my first time with her.