Out of the 5 adcs who don't have a 50% winrate Vayne still sits at 49.7% and Kalista at 48.54% which means the only real bad adcs are Tristana at 47, Corki and 45 and Urgot at 44. You can make the argument that Urgot shouldn't even count as adc so overall you have exactly 2 bad adcs.
And adc mains will still ask for buffs.
Of the 18 adc's you have 13 above 50% winrate, however Lucian, Ezreal, Varus, Caitlyn and Draven are within 50-51% winrate which means the only real good adc's are Twitch, Ashe, Sivir, Kogmaw, Quinn, MF and Jinx. You can make an arguement that Quinn shouldn't even count as adc because he gets played there <20% of his games. So really, you only have 1/3 of the lineup that is good.
And people still complain about adc's all the time.
Lucian's been unbearable: 54% pickrate and 50.5% winrate in diamond, and people tell me he's balanced kek.
200 less range on ult just wasn't enough, he's also got like 96% pickrate @ MSI and has been the most picked champion in competitive since preseason.
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Out of the 5 adcs who don't have a 50% winrate Vayne still sits at 49.7% and Kalista at 48.54% which means the only real bad adcs are Tristana at 47, Corki and 45 and Urgot at 44. You can make the argument that Urgot shouldn't even count as adc so overall you have exactly 2 bad adcs.
And adc mains will still ask for buffs.
This has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
You're looking at ADC statistics, i.e. they ONLY count when these champions are played in the ADC role.
So how exactly do you expect it to be imbalanced?
The reason it looks like this is because the 5 most popular ADCs (Lucian 38%, Ezreal 33%, Vayne 21%, Caitlyn 18%, Jhin 15%) all have win rates of 50% (well, 49% to 51%).
If anything this implies that ADC is the MOST balanced role. Anyone super popular has an almost exactly 50% win rate. Look at any other role - the popular champions are the ones with 55% win rates. In ADC role people are still comfortable playing what they like / what they main, or they're following pros rather than playing what's strong. So clearly ADC is mostly balanced while other roles are in a horrid state.
EDIT: And just to clarify, since it's in the ADC role the average HAS to be 50% by definition. One side will always win, one will always lose. If it looks like the numbers don't line up, remember anyone with under a 10% role rate (i.e. they're picked 9x more often elsewhere) won't show up. So those Kindred ADCs must be sucking if the average win rate is over 50% (or there are more bot lane trolls / or non-marksmen adc picks still suck).
well, you DO have at least 2 adc's every game sooooooo, what's your point?
Lmao the lengths people are going to defend ADCs here.
"Please Doc don't remove my tumor, its really grown on me!"
Never understood these arguments. Every team has an ADC bottom lane, so there's going to be an ADC both on the winning team and on the losing team.
Even if ADC was gutter trash, they'd still win about 50% of the time by default.
So, where do the supposed winrates come from?
Go look at the champs with high pickrate and see what the AVERAGE winrate is for those champs. That's what actually matters - no one cares how often Heimer or Galio wins.
I'm only complaining about 
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These fuckers are so pokey and safe in lane.
Vayne now has more build variety build like a normal AD the classic Bork or now buy the all new ever cancerous rageblade
Meanwhile people lose their shit over Kalista, Vayne and Corki being OP.
ADCs are strong, traditional marksman (as/crit scaling pure AA based carries) are weak. Ye most of them average out at 50%, that does not make them strong.
You need context behind your statements, as an adc main I average a high winrate at the good ol' adcs (not the spell carries), but that is because I know when to pick them and I can only pick them during a game at which a Jinx/Trist/vayne etc.. can work. The strong ADCs are those that you can blind pick and will always work. Lucian/Ez/Sivir has fewer weaknesses in the current meta and can easily be blindpicked in almost every game.
As an old Jinx main I hate this meta, because I can't play her. The TP/Dive meta really hurts some certain carries and that's why there is a lot of adcs asking for buffs (or nerfs for others) certain ADCs. Jinx has not been viable for about half a season, Trist had a spark of light before rageblade was reworked, Vayne has been garbage for a while (not sure atm though, new items might make her strong again). Ashe abused rageblade just as Trist but has a decent mid-game with her ult and that is always good in soloQ. Twitch is an assassin mid-game to carry him to the late.
Kalista was hit hard by the nerfs, Corki has been nerfed after his dominance in midlane... urgot is urgot...
You need to use some context with your winrates, because when you dig deeper. The strongest ADC atm is Lucian, sivir/twitch/ez are following him, depends a lot on the teams for them to shine though. Caitlyn is also good atm, her siege power is absurd.
edit: I haven't mentioned some adcs, such as Draven/Varus are pocket picks that I haven't played enough to comment on, Jhin is a good counter pick with great laning, he's quite bad against the top tank engage meta so he's not as strong atm.
cause win rate = power
You're argument would have better when talking about adc's with winrate >55%. in which case only twitch has that. (which means youre wrong as fuck)
I'd say keep Cancer below 50% winrate. Except urgot
Bot lane marksmen are in a good spot. Most are viable without being too strong.
Now, something tells me your math might be a bit funked.
If these are all the stats from the ADC role (bot lane marksman attack-damage carry) then the average should be 50%
You seem to be pulling from other lanes for these stats, and that's not good support for any set of data.
I just want a buff to my varus so he can keep up with other adc's i dont want to have to pick him mid which has unholy waiting time in the first place to be able to play varus correctly
