Bring Zephyr Back to Summoner's Rift

Sasha Star··3 votes·3,827 views

I think Zephyr item 3172 is an excellent item, but I don't understand why it isn't on Summoner's Rift. Is it because it would be too powerful for the 'Rift? I think it's a fair tradeoff when used instead of Attack Speed/Critical Strike Chance items because the Bonus Attack Damage helps out with more Abilities than Critical Strike Chance does (there aren't many Abilities that apply Critical Strike Chance in contrast to Abilities that apply Bonus Attack Damage) and there is still the possible risk of not being able to Critically Strike as often. Some things I love about Zephyr is that it is the highest Attack Speed item (tied with Wit's End item 3091, Guinsoo's Rageblade item 3124 excluded) and that it has the Tenacity Passive. If Zephyr isn't expensive enough for how much it does, this could balance it out: Bring Stinger item 3101 back into the recipe (or if that's too much Cooldown Reduction, make a new item that grants Attack Speed and Tenacity just to build it into Zephyr), and raise the total Gold cost so that building it from B.F. Sword item 1038 and Stinger isn't only 400 Gold.

I think it would be a great addition back into the 'Rift.

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The Ecdysiast2 votes

It was actually removed years ago because it was useless. No one was buying it because after Trinity had its crit changed to more AS, it became a better option in every single scenario.

Sasha Star1 votes

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It was actually removed years ago because it was useless. No one was buying it because after Trinity had its crit changed to more AS, it became a better option in every single scenario.

True, but now Zephyr has more Attack Damage (albeit less Attack Speed), so perhaps it could be useful again. After all, Riot brought it into Nexus Blitz, which is something to show for.

Poop Johnson1 votes

It still doesn't change the fact that it served only as a late game replacement for boots for ADCs because realistically no champion would prioritize the combination of AD, AS, MS, and tenacity.

Plus Nexus Blitz had item 4403 which is a joke item that costs triple of what Trinity Force costs.

Shahamut2 votes

Skarner actually loved that combination of stats... :-(

Sasha Star1 votes

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Skarner actually loved that combination of stats... :-(

Skarner is awesome...

Shahamut1 votes

Was awesome.. now is just super weak. :-(

Sasha Star1 votes

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It still doesn't change the fact that it served only as a late game replacement for boots for ADCs because realistically no champion would prioritize the combination of AD, AS, MS, and tenacity.

I like Critical Strike/ATK SPD items as substitutes for boots nowadays, considering I usually have trinity force by that point.

Colte2 votes

i miss sword of the divine when we had the option to counter jax or teemo

L Psy Kongroo2 votes

It was a popular item to swap out Berserker's Greaves for in the very late game, since it gave about the same ms as boots with better combat stats. They removed it because, other than these cases, it wasn't really bought much. I liked the item on a few immobile fighters though like Darius and Olaf, who could benefit from the Tenacity aspect without having to get Merc Treads, meaning they could also get Tabi for physical damage defense. I wouldn't mind if they brought it back, though I imagine it would have to cost a bit more than it used to.

NaughtyWord1 votes

I can't think of a situation as Ashe where I would take item 3172 over any mainstays or options.

item 3153 item 3006 item 3031 item 3095 item 3085 item 3071 item 3036 item 3033 item 3046 item 3508 item 3142 item 3231 item 3124

Are all just better in every way and in every situation.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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I can't think of a situation as Ashe where I would take item 3172 over any mainstays or options.

item 3153 item 3006 item 3031 item 3095 item 3085 item 3071 item 3036 item 3033 item 3046 item 3508 item 3142 item 3231 item 3124

Are all just better in every way and in every situation.

Building Stormrazor, Youmuu's or Guinsoo's on Ashe is legit trolling.

NaughtyWord1 votes

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Building Stormrazor, Youmuu's or Guinsoo's on Ashe is legit trolling.

I rarely, if ever build item 3124 or item 3142 . Was just giving a list of items I would build before item 3172

Granted most builds are situational but my typical build path is item 3153 > item 3006 > item 3085 > item 3031 > item 3508 OR item 3071 > item 3139 OR item 3033

With item 3153 item 3006 item 3085 being in every build, well, almost every build anyway.

Sasha Star1 votes

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I rarely, if ever build item 3124 or item 3142 . Was just giving a list of items I would build before item 3172

If I were playing Ashe, I would probably take Zephyr over Guinsoo's Rageblade.

Sasha Star1 votes

All of the items you have listed here could be better, but because their stats are different, I find it hard to compare them and say that one is better than other, even when comparing these items among themselves; an item can always be situational. Granted you will probably buy some of these items as essentials before you would buy some of the other ones, it's like Zephyr would be in the same boat; one could consider Zephyr to be "essential," "situational," or "preferred," because it's a mental game of one's own choice.

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