Would it be possible to allow quinn to input buffer while channeling her ult?
I wanna go into lane fast, or target something fast when I'm ulting as quinn. But I sometimes time my input incorrectly and end up standing still (because it was channeling) instead of moving to the intended targets.
Input buffering during that time would eliminate that small margin of error.
Getcuxcd2 votesscrew quinn she actually needs nerfs to her ridiculous MS from ult and you ask for Qols lol sure as long as they nerf the bullsht MS ....... Even my TF build with 460 MS gets caught EASILY
ModWulf Helhammer20 votesI smell the salt.
And the inability to deal with something you don't like.
Getcuxcd2 votesI smell the salt.
And the inability to deal with something you don't like.
has it crossed your mind that something being OP ISNT IMPOSSIBLE ? im sick of kids denying OP stuff just because they enjoy playing it stop being such egoistical **** its not just about your fun there needs to be BALANCE her ms is ridiculously WAY TOO MUCH if it can get me when i have ms runes ludens boots of swiftness and lich bane 2 ms masterys and with sprint about 550 MS
ModWulf Helhammer21 votesAnd in return, Quinn doesn't have a teleport, the ability to reveal all champions on the map, a targeted max 2 second stun, passive extra gold, waveclear, and mana sustain.
Had it ever occurred to you that something you thought was OP actually isn't? That maybe, just because you don't like playing against something, can't figure out how to deal with it, etc, that something isn't imbalanced?
I don't like playing against TF. Can't stand it. You don't see me calling him OP, because I know how to play against him.
Do you complain that Rammus goes faster then you when in his powerball? No. So why then do you complain that Quinn has a lot of MS in her ult? She sacrifices an actual combat ult for substandard map mobility compared to your boy Fate.
If Quinn is flying up to you, stun her. Or hell, just hit her with an auto attack, tag her with red card AoE, catch her with wild cards, all of these things will stop her and viola! you're faster then her again, while she needs to rechannel her ult. If you can't get away or burst her down in that time, that's all on you.
Getcuxcd2 votesAnd in return, Quinn doesn't have a teleport, the ability to reveal all champions on the map, a targeted max 2 second stun, passive extra gold, waveclear, and mana sustain.
Had it ever occurred to you that something you thought was OP actually isn't? That maybe, just because you don't like playing against something, can't figure out how to deal with it, etc, that something isn't imbalanced?
I don't like playing against TF. Can't stand it. You don't see me calling him OP, because I know how to play against him.
Do you complain that Rammus goes faster then you when in his powerball? No. So why then do you complain that Quinn has a lot of MS in her ult? She sacrifices an actual combat ult for substandard map mobility compared to your boy Fate.
If Quinn is flying up to you, stun her. Or hell, just hit her with an auto attack, tag her with red card AoE, catch her with wild cards, all of these things will stop her and viola! you're faster then her again, while she needs to rechannel her ult. If you can't get away or burst her down in that time, that's all on you.
what a shitty argument TF is easy to deal with LMAO QUINN GETS OUTA NOWHERE AND FKS U UP EVEN IF U WARD SHE MOVES SO FAST SHE CAN GET TO U IN A SECOND THE LAST THING SHE NEEDS IS A BUFF OF ANY KIND SHES LIKE THE RIVEN ADC FORM
ModWulf Helhammer20 votesNice counter argument.
I suggest arming yourself with something better then shouting and crying. It will never get you anywhere: not here, not in real life discussions either.
Getcuxcd2 votesNice counter argument.
I suggest arming yourself with something better then shouting and crying. It will never get you anywhere: not here, not in real life discussions either.
AND ASKING FOR BUFFS WHEN U SUCK ASS WONT GET U ANYWHERE EITHER BADDIE A MAN IS FORCED TO CAPS WHEN A GUY WANTS TO BUFF SOMEHTING THAT IS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS OP AND NEEDS NERFS ARE U INSANE ? OH AND BTW WHO BOOSTED YOU FROM BRONZE TO S5
ModWulf Helhammer15 votesWonderful, now you're resorting to personal attacks.
And by the way, I placed there. I admit I'm not great at the game. Remind me though, who is the one complaining about champs on the boards again?
Getcuxcd2 votesWonderful, now you're resorting to personal attacks.
And by the way, I placed there. I admit I'm not great at the game. Remind me though, who is the one complaining about champs on the boards again?
AND TELL ME AGAIN WHATS WRONG WITH COMPLAINING ABOUT CHAMPS THAT DUCK REAL NERFS JUST CUZ BADDIES LIKE U THAT DENY SHES OP JUST CUZ THEY SUCK ASS AND DONT REALIZE HOW STUPID SHE IS ASKING FOR BUFFS ON AN OP CHAMP IS CALLED INSOLENCE
ModWulf Helhammer13 votesOn the contrary, I do quite well with Quinn. And as I've played her since season 4, I am quite able to gauge her power level.
When she is OP, I will acknowledge as such as will accept it if she gets nerfed.
However, I can also tell when someone just doesn't like to play against something, resorts to yelling and screaming as he has no counterpoints, and as a final attempt, resorts to personal attacks and rank shaming.
Does that sound familiar to you?
And BTW, who the hell would pay to be boosted to f'ing silver 5?
Getcuxcd2 votesAnd BTW, who the hell would pay to be boosted to f'ing silver 5?
someone who thinks quinn needs buffs and not nerfs and no you wouldnt akcnowegldge that she is OP u think u do good but she can do even more and even then theres idiots who just blatantly lie for the sake of keeping their free elo BECAUSE IVE NEVER SEEN A GUY SAY THAT HIS FUCKING FAVORITE CHAMP NEEDS NERFS AND NOT BUFFS THEY ARE ALL SELFISH SCUM AND DONT GIVE AF ABOUT BALANCE
Aatrox Mid 1v57 votessomeone who thinks quinn needs buffs and not nerfs and no you wouldnt akcnowegldge that she is OP u think u do good but she can do even more and even then theres idiots who just blatantly lie for the sake of keeping their free elo BECAUSE IVE NEVER SEEN A GUY SAY THAT HIS FUCKING FAVORITE CHAMP NEEDS NERFS AND NOT BUFFS THEY ARE ALL SELFISH SCUM AND DONT GIVE AF ABOUT BALANCE
You mustve gotten fucked hard by the enemy Quinn or this is just some kind of troll. Quinn is in no way broken. sure she deals a lot of damage but does that make every other champion in the game broken as well? every champion deals damage, so why are you complaining that an assassin can one shot you? Also, instead of complaining that shes broken why dont you just play her to get that "free elo" as already stated, a quality of life change isnt a buff. wow, and people say Na is filled with idiots...
Getcuxcd2 votes[{quoted}](name=free software,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=llnXxgEA,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-13T17:00:07.267+0000)
You mustve gotten fucked hard by the enemy Quinn or this is just some kind of troll. Quinn is in no way broken. sure she deals a lot of damage but does that make every other champion in the game broken as well? every champion deals damage, so why are you complaining that an assassin can one shot you? Also, instead of complaining that shes broken why dont you just play her to get that "free elo" as already stated, a quality of life change isnt a buff. wow, and people say Na is filled with idiots...
you must SUCK ASS with quinn HARD if you think im some kind of troll or that quinn is in no way broken GEEZ SHE DEALS ALOT OF DMG AND CAN CATCH U WITH HER STUPID MS AND THEN THERES HER BLIND THAT IS JUST DUMB PICK ONE PLEASE U CANT HAVE IT ALL AND WHY AM I NOT SUPRISED .. UR SILVR THE IRONY THAT U CALL ME AN IDIOT IF U WERE STANDING INFRONT OF ME IRL ATM.
VoidStaresBack6 votesShe doesn't have it all. She doesn't have tankiness, any real cc, or a way to escape if she uses her e offensively.
Aatrox Mid 1v56 votesyou must SUCK ASS with quinn HARD if you think im some kind of troll or that quinn is in no way broken GEEZ SHE DEALS ALOT OF DMG AND CAN CATCH U WITH HER STUPID MS AND THEN THERES HER BLIND THAT IS JUST DUMB PICK ONE PLEASE U CANT HAVE IT ALL AND WHY AM I NOT SUPRISED .. UR SILVR THE IRONY THAT U CALL ME AN IDIOT IF U WERE STANDING INFRONT OF ME IRL ATM.
And youre silver too? shes an assassin why is there a problem with her damage output and her gap closer? i dont see you complaining about rengar or khazix who has insane damage output and a gap closer as well.
SlntReaper1 votesNO MATTER IF UR AN ASSASSIN YOU CAN HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT AND IT NEEDS TO BE TONED DOWN EITHER DMG BLIND OR ULT MS AND HER MS IS UNNECESARILY RIDICULOUSLY TOO HIGH SHE CAN BYPASS WARDS PASS THROUGH THEM LIKE THE FUCKING FLASH WITHOUT BEING SEEN FOR 0.5 SEC AND FUCK U UP WHY NOT NERF IT IT WONT MAKE HER UP, JUST BALANCED U CANT PLAY BALANCED OR WHAT ?
AND ALSO I DO COMPLAIN ABOUT KHA AND RENGAR AND RENGAR IS GETTING REWORKED CAUSE HES UNHEALTHY FOR THE GAME THANK GOD
...some assassins may be unhealthy, but you don't have to be so tilted over it. PS Talon rework sucks.
SlntReaper6 votesNO MATTER IF UR AN ASSASSIN YOU CAN HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT AND IT NEEDS TO BE TONED DOWN EITHER DMG BLIND OR ULT MS AND HER MS IS UNNECESARILY RIDICULOUSLY TOO HIGH SHE CAN BYPASS WARDS PASS THROUGH THEM LIKE THE FUCKING FLASH WITHOUT BEING SEEN FOR 0.5 SEC AND FUCK U UP WHY NOT NERF IT IT WONT MAKE HER UP, JUST BALANCED U CANT PLAY BALANCED OR WHAT ?
AND ALSO I DO COMPLAIN ABOUT KHA AND RENGAR AND RENGAR IS GETTING REWORKED CAUSE HES UNHEALTHY FOR THE GAME THANK GOD
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Limrick4 votesHer blind is a skillshot. Gold Card is point and click.
The 2nd Horseman11 votesI believe the other guy is a troll, if he's not then he's too dumb to reason with.
Sidestep7 votesThe op is asking for a qol change... I think you need to realize the difference between a qol change and a buff.
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The op is asking for a qol change... I think you need to realize the difference between a qol change and a buff.
BUT WHEN A CHAMP IS BLATANTLY OP AND NEEDS NERFS THE LAST THING HE NEEDS IS QOL BUFFS ONLY ALLOWED IF SHE GETS HER DESERVED NERFS PERIOD
falldown0106 votesjust leave the post please your own logic cant even understand itself if all you're going to do , is say blah x is so op , blah x needs nerfs then you're not worth it , at all,
Getcuxcd1 votesjust leave the post please your own logic cant even understand itself if all you're going to do , is say blah x is so op , blah x needs nerfs then you're not worth it , at all,
LOL UR LIKE just leave the post so i can have my free elo made even freeer.. if your gonna say x champ who in reality is OP needs ANYTHING positive at all there is something really wrong with you.. fuck off
falldown0105 votesuhm why should quin be nerfed so you can have free elo just so you know, they will nerf quinn, because a retarted idiot wants quinn nerfed so he can get free elo on tf
and just so you know, the op is right, but you never played quinn did you ? one basic attack or damadge form a scource and the ult falls off , and you lose 100 mana for no reason (mid game) so it is a second matter
Limrick3 votesShe does have waveclear, just saying.
Only Play Darius5 votesI'm with him on Quinn being cancerous top lane. But that's because I play melee champions, him playing a ranged champion with a clickshot stun he has no excuse
falldown0103 votesdont pick melee champs vs ranged champs top ... first mistake
second mistake , if you are playing vs a quinn/vayne top do not pick champs with barely any gap closers
Last mistake, her e is not a stun, its an ability that knocks you back and gives quinn time to counter attack her best counter ability vs melee's, her q works as well, but the melee can just walk anhead, and look for her
and quinn is a female..., just wanted to point that out :)
VoidStaresBack1 votesHe was referring to the TF player who's arguing for Quinn nerfs, since TF does have a clickshot stun.
falldown0101 votesoh never knew it was a clickstun ^^ ty for the heads up
Only Play Darius3 votesI mean it's easy to say "Don't pick immobile melee into ranged top" when you don't main top lane, the majority of toplane champions 
cannot function in any other lane whereas there are plenty of mages that can go support if Zed and Yasuo are giving them a hard time and even many junglers can simply go top as we have seen with Maokai and Rammus
And it doesn't help that my primary response pick to ranged toplaners gets banned frequently 
falldown0103 votesoh well nasus is .. uhm a nono but darius, or illaoi could potencially do something nice they can jump on her, if her e is down and ult her down
but yeah champs like nasus, and singed, are just asking to get quinn fed
GhaelWinds1 votesDarius vs Quinn is a skill match up. I've both been completely destroyed by a Darius, and completely destroyed a Darius. If the Quinn e's before he e's you can kiss your life goodbye.
Only Play Darius1 votesI would say it's dependent on the jungler. If Darius gets a couple of solid ganks like he should when Quinn is shoving him to turret all game, he will snowball completely out of control and murder her on his own for the rest of the game. Likewise if he has a shit jungler that never ganks and doesn't understand how easy of a kill an overextended squishy is in toplane, Darius is going to be zoned from CS and flat-out screwed.
It's also very hard to bait out her E without using apprehend first since she will always keep a distance and Darius has no mobility
GhaelWinds1 votesSame can be said for the Quinn's jungler. If he completely camps the Darius then the same thing happens. But he doesn't have to be zoned off of cs, a good Darius in thst scenario would get Dorans shield and be able to avoid a good bit of the damage from 1-3 past that he is strong enough to all in her if he plays it right.
Coming from a person who has level 6 on Quinn, a Darius can easily bait on the e if the Darius has Quinn in his Q. From there the Quinn either has to e to dodge the Q damage and let Darius not heal. Or just take that huge chunk of damage and let him heal off of it. Oftimes that from Darius is monstrous. Because even if Darius does apprehend and Quinn fault back his Q is still in that range. So as I said before it's a skill match up.
dragonboytsubasa1 votesdont pick melee champs vs ranged champs top ... first mistake
Problem with that is the vast majority of champs that go in top lane are melee. But that doesn't mean you can't take a melee champ in top against Quinn, there are melee champs that exist who can counter her.
are examples of a few, and others like 
can also give her a hard time.
second mistake , if you are playing vs a quinn/vayne top do not pick champs with barely any gap closers
Quinn still does well against some champs with gap closers e.g. 
. But I still sort of agree with you, if you're smart about how you play against Quinn and wait for her to E first then you can still do some damage to her.
Last mistake, her e is not a stun, its an ability that knocks you back and gives quinn time to counter attack her best counter ability vs melee's.
It's a dash knockback that also moves Quinn to her maximum attack range, to be a used as a gap closer (If they're too far) or a gap creator (If they're too close i.e. melee range) - but if she E's someone over a wall she follows them over it (i.e. Doesn't go back over the wall), and if she E's someone with her back to a wall she'll hop over it.
Her q works as well, but the melee can just walk ahead, and look for her
This can also be said for ranged champions. Without a gap closer or unless she's in your face you don't stand a chance of trying to find her during the blind. Even if you do, she'll E away from you to make the most of her blind.
LOL UR LIKE just leave the post so i can have my free elo made even freeer.. if your gonna say x champ who in reality is OP needs ANYTHING positive at all there is something really wrong with you.. fuck off
No, that's not why you're being asked to leave. It's because you're being very destructive with your criticisms. All you've done is whine about this champ being op because you don't know how to deal with her, when she really isn't (I laned against a Quinn with Malphite and absolutely wrecked her), and asking for nerfs when she's been nerfed to the ground to the point mostly Quinn mains use her now - all this in caps no less. The only thing the op wants is a qol change, not even a buff. And I agree, it'll make it much easier to do things without accidentally cancelling the ult or some other mishap.
CeexSett1 votesHe was saying HE to the guy who said played TF.
Saixos6 votesYou know nothing, TyrionL.
Getcuxcd2 votesYou know nothing, TyrionL.
atleast have some dignity and dont have the insolence to ask for buffs its enough already that she doesnt get her deserved nerfs geez fking baddies
Saixos9 votesStatistically speaking, Quinn is currently at an extremely balanced state. She has a winrate hovering slightly above 50%, around 51% usually, with a very low playrate so that mainly experienced Quinn's play her, and those go up to a healthy 55-58% for the onetricks. Compare that to many other champions and you'll find Quinn in an alright spot.
Quinn isn't OP, nor is she UP. This isn't a buff request, but a QoL request - it has no impact on her strength ingame, just removes a bit of frustration while playing her.
I will admit that Quinn can be very frustrating to play against, but just because you hate her guts doesn't make her OP.
Getcuxcd1 votesStatistically speaking, Quinn is currently at an extremely balanced state. She has a winrate hovering slightly above 50%, around 51% usually, with a very low playrate so that mainly experienced Quinn's play her, and those go up to a healthy 55-58% for the onetricks. Compare that to many other champions and you'll find Quinn in an alright spot.
Quinn isn't OP, nor is she UP. This isn't a buff request, but a QoL request - it has no impact on her strength ingame, just removes a bit of frustration while playing her.
I will admit that Quinn can be very frustrating to play against, but just because you hate her guts doesn't make her OP.
oh u say "it has no impact on her strength ingame, just removes a bit of frustration while playing her." like she isnt frustrating enough to play against we have to make it less frustrating for her isnt she having enough fun fucking up people with her bullsht OP stuff ?** how about a QOL nerf to make her less frustrating to play against how does that sound HUH ?**
Saixos5 votesSure, why not! Lets make her Q projectile appear thinner, so that it actually matches the projectile width. Should help.
QoL changes really don't matter at all regarding game balance, they just reduce the frustration of playing as or against the champion. Unfortunately, any QoL changes for Quinn would barely reduce the frustration of playing VS her. That's just the type of champion she is.
Kei1433 votesShe can out move you, but you can out range her and stun her before that.
So, whats the problem there, not being able to pick a card properly?.
Getcuxcd2 votesShe can out move you, but you can out range her and stun her before that.
So, whats the problem there, not being able to pick a card properly?.
U CANT OUTRANGE HER AND STUN HER BEFORE THAT BECAUSE SHE HAS HER DUMB BLIND U KNOWS THATS THE RPOBLEM
Kei1434 votesWhere is the move speed then if she used blind.
Getcuxcd2 votesWhere is the move speed then if she used blind.
BECUZ WHEN SHE IS IN RANGE TO USE BLIND SHE ALREADY GOT NEAR U AND THE MOVE SPEED PROBLEM IS THAT SHE GETS NEAR U EFFORTLESSLY U GET IT NOW ? ITS HER ROAMING/JUNGLE GANKS IM WORRIED ABOUT AND ALSO USUALLY WHEN SHE GETS NEAR U SHE ALSO CAN SLOW U REAL HARD WHICH ALSO INCREASES HER MS AGAINST U ITS LIKE U STILL HAVE UR ULT
Kei1435 voteshmm..
so let's say she max range blinds you, you can move backwards at that time so she doesn't proc her AA. She hasn't slowed you yet.
Since she blinded you, she no longer has the move speed of her ult. so it should be a safe disengage.
If she vaulted you first for the slow, that means she was close enough for her to AA and you didn't, so.. that's kinda your fault for not attacking her off her mount. Not to mention you have gold and red cards to counter her engage. Once she dismounts and you've stunned / slowed her as well then she can't catch up to you anymore.
I mean.. if you combine all her skills together used at once, of course it'll be op, but truth is that she doesn't do that.
Getcuxcd2 voteshmm..
so let's say she max range blinds you, you can move backwards at that time so she doesn't proc her AA. She hasn't slowed you yet.
Since she blinded you, she no longer has the move speed of her ult. so it should be a safe disengage.
If she vaulted you first for the slow, that means she was close enough for her to AA and you didn't, so.. that's kinda your fault for not attacking her off her mount. Not to mention you have gold and red cards to counter her engage. Once she dismounts and you've stunned / slowed her as well then she can't catch up to you anymore.
I mean.. if you combine all her skills together used at once, of course it'll be op, but truth is that she doesn't do that.
she does and i checked ur bronze not trying to offend u with that but you are not qualified to talk about balance
Kei1434 votesif she does use everything together, it means that she lost 2 harrier procs, so that shouldn't kill you. Unless she's fed. But everyone is strong when they are fed.
Also, it goes back to the point where you can stun her while she is vaulting and blinding you at the same time.
and I'm not even talking about balance here, just talking about hypothetical scenarios and how to play them. You'll never see me complaining about a champion being op / up (as you said, I'm bronze afterall), instead I'll go imagine the scenario again and see how I can out play them next time.
I mean .. no need to panick just because she jumped you. It's the same as not panicking when khazix / rengar jumps you. unless they are real fed, there's enough time to react.
At our level (yes, you included), it's lesser about who is op / up, but how you execute the gameplay & exercise game knowledge.
Getcuxcd2 votesif she does use everything together, it means that she lost 2 harrier procs, so that shouldn't kill you. Unless she's fed. But everyone is strong when they are fed.
and I'm not even talking about balance here, just talking about hypothetical scenarios and how to play them.
I mean .. no need to panick just because she jumped you. It's the same as not panicking when khazix / regards jumps you. unless they are real fed, there's enough time to react.
mind you we are considering her GANGS/ROAMING so theres always going to be a guy to help in example syndra will stun u etc and dont say rammus etc shit cuz quinn is just worse.. shes squishy but she is faster and she has a ranged super fucking up slow and that blind NONO she blind u syndra stuns u GG RIP if she dont have that stupid MS ull see her when she gangs with ur ward instead of walking like the fking FLASH
Kei1433 votesThen its probably more a bout wave management, positioning and deeper wards.
That way you have more time to react (instead of that little side brush only), and can back off those ganks more often.
Freezes can help, but I guess you can complain they can tower dive you as well, but that is a whole different story!
