NO GOD. NO. NO GOD PLEASE NO NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

CirclesBruh·Feb 26, 2015·3 votes·1,441 views

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All hail mobility. Forever may it reign. Zilean's only damage unreliable AF. RIP my favorite champion. I'll miss you, you cheeky SOB.

12 Comments

ChoNuffFeb 26, 20152 votes

Wait until you test his mobility too...the big 99 percent slow is another way of saying zilean is only fast for 2.5 seconds instead of 5.5. Bill of goods baby. Build him tanky and just go around slowing people. More fun than missing bombs and never being able to double up. That was fun part of Zilean...gonna need to step up the health and armor scaling for the new tanky zilean meta.

MakeHongKongFreeFeb 26, 20151 votes

It is also possibly the larges non-ultamite AoE stun in the game, I think this change just puts Zilean more into the support role rather than poke mage role.

Mage Zilean shoud still be completely viable, that "stick" area for the time bombs are massive for mid lane.

disregardableFeb 26, 20153 votes

It's impossible to hit. Half the time when I do manage to land a bomb on someone in range, they get out before the bomb realizes it should stick to them. The shortened detonation time and longer cast time are ridiculously hard- I had to try 3 times just to stun CREEPs. Zilean is dead.

MakeHongKongFreeFeb 26, 20152 votes

Hopefully the balance team continues to look at Zilean performance and applies changes in the next few patches, if needed. Until then, don't give up on your favorite champ!!

Matthias9119Feb 26, 20152 votes

It's impossible to hit.

How the hell could you have trouble landing skillshots with a point-and-click 99% slow? (Yes, I know it's not 99% until max rank, but it's a pretty strong slow early.)

If it's glitchy they need to fix that, but come on.

disregardableFeb 26, 20153 votes

It's not 99% ever. The game softcaps slows to under 70%. That's not a horrible thought, just a really unrealistic one. Blow all your spells and mana to do 150 damage? Sure hope your laning opponent doesn't want to retaliate or something.

Matthias9119Feb 26, 20151 votes

If you're supporting and can catch both enemies in it, you're effectively getting either 225+2.4xAP or 300+3.2xAP at rank 1, plus a 1.5s stun.

In a solo lane, no, it's not as mana efficient. AOE abilities rarely are. They did also lower the mana costs on both E and Q.

Poptart EvelynnFeb 26, 20151 votes

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It's not 99% ever. The game softcaps slows to under 70%. That's not a horrible thought, just a really unrealistic one. Blow all your spells and mana to do 150 damage? Sure hope your laning opponent doesn't want to retaliate or something.

Are you just saying this because someone told you so? This isn't true.

disregardableFeb 26, 20151 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Movement_speed Small Title "Movement Speed Caps" under the Big Title "Calculations"

When the raw movement speed is less than 220 another soft cap is used: If the raw speed below 220, it gets multiplied by 50% and added to 110.

So, when you have a "99% slow" on a champion with say, 370 movement speed, their movement speed SHOULD be 370*.01= 3.7 movement speed. However, 3.7 movement speed is below 220, so it gets multiplied by half to 1.85 and added to 110, giving you 111 movement speed, which is only a 70% decrease.

ZmuecatFeb 26, 20152 votes

Not saying it's an excuse, but I had a game against him where the bomb would land on me directly, but stick to a minion instead.

Screwed that poor fellows lane up, cause he lost out on two kills, and that let me feed my ADC.

I'm very away that he also could have been a bad Zilean/still dealing with the changes.

SiytherFeb 26, 20152 votes

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It's impossible to hit. Half the time when I do manage to land a bomb on someone in range, they get out before the bomb realizes it should stick to them. The shortened detonation time and longer cast time are ridiculously hard- I had to try 3 times just to stun CREEPs. Zilean is dead.

i just loaded up a practice game and tried it for 50 min or so it hard to get used to landing but when u do, its awesome. hint slow them first with ur e and it makes it so easy to stun ur target.

CirclesBruhFeb 26, 20151 votes

Please, have you tried it? You will almost never seen that stun get landed on champions. It takes like a full second and a half to land the second bomb.