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Shyvanas Buff Does Not do Nearly Enough.

AIQ·1/15/2019, 5:44:54 PM·11 votes·8,540 views

Shyvanas current buff consist of 20% damage to dragons (+10% from live). +1.25 hp per AA dmg on E marked targets.

I'll start by saying that Meddler stated he'd look into giving Shyvana the ability to scale with Elder. But even combined with that buff it's still not enough.

Soon Jungle XP will be nerfed, Smite items will be nerfed, and more. Shyvana is still trying to recover from other indirect nerfs to her runes and build. With Scuttle changes and a slew of damage we are all well aware exist.

Shyvana needs so much more. Her defenses need to be increased heavily. This change will not increase her win rate, even by the 1% goal. In fact, the indirect nerfs will end up more than likely decreasing it.

Immediate issues to solve that are more QOL buffs are and not hard to implement 
and would make Shyvana just feel better to play are...

  1. Elder Dragon Stacking

  2. Ws Movement speed decay needs to be removed.

  3. Gaining fury while dead. (Shyvana is the only champion in the game that's ultimate cool down stops while dead.)

    Her Primary issues are 3 things. Passive: Extremely weak for the cost/effort to obtain it. Q: Gutted too hard. R: Lackluster power increase in this form.

I could go on, but I'm trying to keep this as short as possible. Shyvana needs more than +10% to dragons. If Riot would like suggestion instead of just another complaint I'm down, but that would fill ten pages.

33 Comments

FOR JUSTICE1/15/2019, 7:08:02 PM2 votes

implying we have games long enough to see an elder dragon

Doge20201/15/2019, 6:43:00 PM2 votes

honestly I would like a top lane shyvana buff lol

Maybe a rework to her passive is needed, the one I thought of rn is that shyvana’s AD/AP and/or resistances is increased the higher her rage bar is. She can fill the rage bar pre lvl 6 and at max rage can cast one of her empowered abilities (would consume half of the bar or all of it) Just an idea, lmk what you think and what changes I should make.

fire2631/15/2019, 11:41:05 PM2 votes

I rarely play shyvana, but I can agree with this, especially the part where dragon form feels a bit lackluster in terms of power increase. I feel it's mainly used just for the dash when you cast it, or if you're playing ap shyvana because big artillery damage. Would like to see some changes perhaps to her R travel speed, as it's pretty easily dodged and gets kited quite easily. Perhaps remove decay while in dragon form? I would also like to see some changes to her regular form as well, to make the kits feel slightly different from each other. Dragon form should not do completely the same thing, just slightly better, there should be something that makes human form unique and usable in fights.

Profirix1/15/2019, 6:52:40 PM2 votes

Shyvana's greatest problem is just how simple her kit is compared to all the top junglers these days. She's just going to need to get a complete overhaul in order to survive the upcoming seasons.

StarGuardianWeeb1/16/2019, 2:57:52 AM2 votes

Needs an Ezreal level update imo. New W and some reworked dragon abilities would make her way cooler and provably better

wildfox9T1/16/2019, 12:33:26 PM1 votes

upvoted just because i'm sick of permaganking junglers...it woudn't be bad playing against this kind of jungler for once,they're much more healty

CooliusToolius1/16/2019, 4:12:19 PM1 votes

Squishy but stronk

Hethalean1/15/2019, 6:20:08 PM1 votes

I think jungle xp nerfs will probably help Shyvana. XP nerfs hurts early ganking junglers the most. If they can't power farm as well as some champs, they'll suffer more.

LordGeovanni1/16/2019, 8:58:54 PM1 votes

i wrote some points and exited out the tab. maybe nextime.

Alzon1/15/2019, 8:02:31 PM1 votes

Didn’t Riot increase the EXP from Dragons recently? It is pretty high.

I wonder if this buff plus the reduced EXP from camps makes taking Dragon early more EXP/time efficient than farming camps.

I really would like to see a buff to Shyvana’s Scuttle-taking - perhaps a knockback to minions/monsters on her E (like Graves’s autos).

It’s really interesting how this burst meta has everyone wanting QoL or utility buffs instead of damage buffs.

Illabethe1/16/2019, 2:41:10 AM1 votes

Sure..... because one of the easiest kits to Abuse Frozen Mallet on, who has solid contribution to each game.... and has one of the earliest Drakes..... needs a ton.

Not like they doubled up her scaling, or that she instantaeously kills champs she counters or anything..... or that she has an ult that recharges faster than most ults.......

14daysuspensionk1/16/2019, 9:04:14 AM1 votes

Sounds more lore related, after all she was forced to kill her own mother.

Zeromatsu1/16/2019, 10:30:47 AM1 votes

imo she needs a slow on either Q or E and she would be fine.

A new passive would be an option too, I would love to see her passive changing depending on the element of the most slayed dragon.

Just a few suggestions:

  1. Fire: She gets a small aura which deals damage on all nearby enemies (like sunfire).
  2. Water: Shyvanas E heals or shields allies hit.
  3. Mountain: Shyvana gets bigger every time she loses a certain amount of hp increasing her W (and E) radius.
  4. Wind: Nearby allies are faster when running towards Shyvana.