I Would Love an AD/Armor Item

Rebonack··11 votes·956 views

With Atma's finally dying a horrible, agonizing death, can we get an actual AD/Armor item?

We've got two AD/MR items, why isn't there any real AD/Armor option?

Pickaxe + Warden's Mail + Combine = item that steals attack speed when you get hit, maybe? That would make it kinda-sorta a counterpart to Wit's End.

Even if that idea is awful (it might be!) do you folks think an AD/Ar replacement would be a good idea? Or do melees need to continue suffering?

Yes/no/walrus?

19 Comments

67chrome10 votes

Yes/no/walrus?

Walrus is an option?

Gonna have to go with Walrus.

Kuroi861 votes

#bringbackURF2015

SnowFall4 votes

I'm afraid it might become ADC's favorite not bruiser's

CoolKnightST1 votes

That's where the melee only option is for. But besides that an alternative for item 3072 might not be a bad idea.

Rebonack1 votes

I'm afraid it might become ADC's favorite not bruiser's

That's easy to fix.

Unique Passive Cold Steel: Reduces auto attacker's AS by 15% when they hit you.

Unique Passive (Melee Only): You steal the IAS foes lose from the Cold Steel passive.

Or something like that. Problem solved!

Khristophoros3 votes

Yeah and let's name it Atma's Impaler.

Remlap12233 votes

Why can't we just have Atma's back? It kinda makes me sad because I bulit in on quite a few of the champs I play when I wanted them to be tanky but with just a little bit of teeth. Gangplank LeeSin Olaf Trundle Vi. I mean, Smite has multiple items that have attack scale off of protections and health and the game isn't broken. Why can't we do the same with League?

buster kiton2 votes

There are better armor items than MR items in tank selection. I don't want adc's to have this. However, I like sea creatures and think they are fantastic.

Let's get some more walrus in here.

Rebonack1 votes

Walrus is* always* an option.

Zirzon1 votes

Please add an actual vote option on this. I want to choose walrus!

Kuroi861 votes

It's possible but I don't think the chances are likely. If we see an AD/AR item, expect something along the lines of 20Ad/50Ar or swapped, nothing really strong. The issue with Atma's is how well it would work with AD assassins and bruisers. Why it was nerfed and probably why it's going away.

IwfiKe3qjM1 votes

Pick Walrus... and if Riot suddenly decided to build AD/Armor (although the chance is nearly 0)... Give petition to name it Walrus in account of this thread...

BlackRaven1 votes

With Atma's finally dying a horrible, agonizing death, can we get an actual AD/Armor item?

We've got two AD/MR items, why isn't there any real AD/Armor option?

Pickaxe + Warden's Mail + Combine = item that steals attack speed when you get hit, maybe? That would make it kinda-sorta a counterpart to Wit's End.

Even if that idea is awful (it might be!) do you folks think an AD/Ar replacement would be a good idea? Or do melees need to continue suffering?

Yes/no/walrus?

we arent ap champions so you know the answer to that dont you?

Jungle Lux God1 votes

A problem that I see with it is that it could make ADC's much too strong with it, and make it either have negligible stats of either kind or it would need to have some kind of drawback.

However, this kind of item could be really good for bruisers, especially considering we have good bruiser AD items in Hexdrinker, but needs to be tuned so it doesn't really affect ranged champs too much.

Something like this could work:

recipe: Pickaxe + Warden's Mail + gold stats: +AD +Armor Unique passive: Cold steel: When hit by basic attacks, reduce the attacker's attack speed by X %. Passive: Ranged Only: reduce your own attack speed by X %

This way, it is more useful on melee bruisers that this should be good on, and less good on the ranged carries that may also consider this item in the bot lane, as you would either reduce your late game damage output by a lot if you pick this up, and would slow down your build if you want to sell it later.

Hayaishi1 votes

Because it would be broken.

Rebonack3 votes

Because it would be broken.

Broken compared to what?

All items have opportunity cost associated with them.

FalconPawwwwnch2 votes

Because it would be broken.

Lol how would it be broken if it gives flat AD and flat armor

"Because it shouldn't give the same damage type that it also defends against" Meanwhile Abyssal Scepter and Athene's

The problem with atma's isn't that it's ad/armor it's the health scaling passive

EndGamer111 votes

All bruisers would get it. It would be too good. Damage and tankiness all in one. and if one gets it and the other does not, the one who does not loses.

Rebonack1 votes

All bruisers would get it. It would be too good. Damage and tankiness all in one. and if one gets it and the other does not, the one who does not loses.

Remind me how many Rangers pick up Last Whisper.

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