What is that damage on Karma's Q?

ShiishKabob·Sep 8, 2016·3 votes·1,334 views

One hit from her Q as Ekko and I lose more than half my health? and that's not even with her QR damage.

Please nerf Karma and apply that damage to Ekko's Q immediately. haha jk

but that damage....

9 Comments

KaiokoSep 8, 20163 votes

260+ 60% AP shouldn't half health you. It does become quite a bit stronger if she uses her R though.

Friendly RamSep 8, 20162 votes

It's her only damage spell and can be further enhanced by her R. It's called a bunker buster for a reason.

nosafterburnSep 8, 20161 votes

its not her only damage spell. her w damages as well as roots, and her wr damages, roots, and heals her.

ReikkenSep 8, 20161 votes

W does more damage than Q

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 8, 20163 votes

Her W applies damage in ticks. It can be negated if the tether is broken, whereas Q damage is applied on-hit. Q does more damage in most scenarios.

ReikkenSep 8, 20161 votes

the only reason you're losing half health to non-mantra Q is because you're like lv 5 while karma is lv 12

ShiishKabobSep 8, 20161 votes

I don't know but I've never seen so much of my health disappear at once in chunks with any other champion.

So if Karma is a primary mage and secondary support and she can get her ult at level 1, then why is she able to proc her passive gathering fire with her basic attacks? yes, the effect is reduced by half but she should still not be able to proc her passive with her auto attacks which would make her more balanced in my opinion.

MisterShamelessSep 8, 20161 votes

Because she has no powerspike like other champions have. Jayce and Nidalee both have level 1 ultimates, but also have 2 skills unlocked at level 1 while Karma only has 1 skill. Another thing to mention is that these three champions have a strong early game, but fall off heavily late game due to lack of a real ultimates (aka no power spike at level 6). Not sure where Udyr would fall in these categories, but he can also choose to start level 1 with his ultimate (if you want to consider every R an ultimate that is).

SilverSquidSep 8, 20161 votes

Q - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 260 (+0.6AP) RQ (initial)- - - - - - - - - 75 (+0.3AP) RQ (detonation) - - 350 (+0.6AP)

If you mean that that first part of RQ can half health you, yes, this can happen, if she is ahead and fed (and you are anything but a tank). But at this point a Lux Q (250+0.7AP) & E (240+0.6AP) would probably already deal more damage, especially if you add some passive procs.

If only Q half healths you, you are having a serious problem. Because at that point a Lulu Q would do about the same (260 +0.5AP). And Karma would kill you with W & Q alone, no mantra required.