riot said that they are going to compensate thresh for his relic lost

BigBonedCartman·Jan 17, 2018·9 votes·751 views

someone wanna make a list of all champions who got compensated after years or never compensated after something about them gets removed?

26 Comments

ChermorgJan 17, 20188 votes

Maybe those champions don’t need compensation, as they were already stronger?

Generally speaking, Riot only talks about “compensating” for a change when a change is going to cause a champion (or a few champs) that were already weak to become much weaker if nothing is done but pushing the change. Not every single change needs compensation - the net result would be no change in balance - i.e. the game would stay “just as broken” if they compensated for every change.

BigBonedCartmanJan 17, 20183 votes

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Maybe those champions don’t need compensation, as they were already stronger?

Generally speaking, Riot only talks about “compensating” for a change when a change is going to cause a champion (or a few champs) that were already weak to become much weaker if nothing is done but pushing the change. Not every single change needs compensation - the net result would be no change in balance - i.e. the game would stay “just as broken” if they compensated for every change.

xd there are so many champions who were weak and din't get compensated and thresh is really strong

ChermorgJan 17, 20183 votes

I encourage you to point one out (recent examples, as there’s nothing Riot can do about things many patches ago, because at this point that would be just a buff, not a compensation) from the last patch or two that you feel was not left in an adequate position after a change. It’s best to do this in a new thread, where you point out the (proposed) breaking change, and outline how the champion/item will be left in a much inferior position, then propose a solution (compensation) if you have one.

BigBonedCartmanJan 17, 20183 votes

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I encourage you to point one out (recent examples, as there’s nothing Riot can do about things many patches ago, because at this point that would be just a buff, not a compensation) from the last patch or two that you feel was not left in an adequate position after a change. It’s best to do this in a new thread, where you point out the (proposed) breaking change, and outline how the champion/item will be left in a much inferior position, then propose a solution (compensation) if you have one.

graves didn't get compensated after he lost sterak gage that is one

GigglesOJan 17, 20183 votes

item 3116 Mordekaiser

AhristocatsJan 17, 20184 votes

Oh my bloody helish god

Morde DOES NOT need Rylai to work

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=malicious+metal

dude has 1000 range on W , 700 range on E, 600 range on R and you think that he needs to stick to people to deal damage? if anything Q is a decoration spell that is mostly used to kill melees that come to you, you can already kill people with W reactivation R and E and gunblade active

the reason he didn't get compensated for Rylai is because he doesn't need Rylai

no one needs Rylai to work in this game designers when designing a champion didn't think "oh let's create a champion that will need to build a slow from an item to work"

KennysDreamGirlJan 17, 20182 votes

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graves didn't get compensated after he lost sterak gage that is one

not once did i ever see graves build sterak after the changes. the only ranged champ i ever saw use it was urgot

GripaAviaraJan 17, 20181 votes

Isn't sterak melee only?

KennysDreamGirlJan 17, 20181 votes

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Isn't sterak melee only?

until 7.20 it wasnt

KennysDreamGirlJan 17, 20181 votes

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Isn't sterak melee only?

i think i tried building it on xayah when she first came out

SalronJan 17, 20181 votes

Graves was notorious for Steraks Maw back when they stacked, after that was changed he rarely ever built it except as a Luxury item since he usually wanted Maw

RenownedWheat42Jan 17, 20184 votes

The relic change is forcing Thresh into a build path that's far less optimal and has a lower winrate by a decent margin. So the compensation makes sense.

Usually a nerf unaccompanied by a compensation buff is due to the champ needing it themselves. For Thresh, he's losing out because of ADC abuse.

DemainaNyxJan 18, 20181 votes

Don't forget to blame Gangplank with Klepto and Spell Thief top lane. And Nidalee/Eve/Elise with Spell Thief in the Jungle or those AP midlanes with it.

Vistha D ReptileJan 17, 20183 votes

Does a champion in question has 52%+ winrate?

[Yes] - COMPENSATE COMPENSATE COMPENSATE [No] - Lol, fuck off.

Rathar DashingJan 17, 20182 votes

then why come the didn't compensate mah Sona Janna after the ardent nerfs

Vistha D ReptileJan 17, 20182 votes

I guess they draw the line at 55%.

THE RlVER KlNGJan 17, 20182 votes

yeah lol that s such bullshit

i hope they aren't gonna go out of their way to buff thresh when he's perfectly fine and uses coin half of the time anyways, but it's thresh and we can't have anyone played but him and his overloaded kit

AhristocatsJan 17, 20183 votes

thresh using coin half of the time

:^)))))))))))))))))))))))))

BigBonedCartmanJan 17, 20181 votes

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thresh using coin half of the time

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thresh really does not need a compensation riot favoritism at his best

AhristocatsJan 17, 20181 votes

idc

thresh is one of the subject that i promised to myself to not to talk about with the boards, because it ends up a clown fiesta of shitty arguments

and tahm kench mains blaming thresh for being overloaded is so hilarious

anyway, thresh compensation buff is on the way like it or not :^) , dude is garbage and never picked in lck/LPL he doesn't need one more nerf because adcs are abusing targon

sincerly

THE RlVER KlNGJan 17, 20181 votes

Literally every time I bring up Thresh you try and say Tahm is broken. Thresh was designed by CertainlyT to be the most overloaded and powerful support ever. He has tools to every situation and does a variety of things extremely well. Just because other supports like Leo, Ali, and Blitz are dominating doesn’t mean he needs buffs. If for some reason this guts him then sure but they shouldn’t preemptively say ‘oh yah we’re gonna give him a compensation buff when we totally don’t do that for other champs that aren’t as popular’.

AhristocatsJan 17, 20181 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/173f665e2a0318562d8020519f8dbcde.png https://gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?season=S8&tournament=ALL&league=ALL&patch=8.1. can't wait for tahm kench nerf

it's funny that you think thresh is overloaded broken or w/e but he never gets played atm, and relic shield is being nerfed

meanwhile kench keeps ruining high elo games and lck? give me a break

YOUR champion was literally designed to ruin games, at least i can block thresh lantern, there is nothing that i can do against a kench that has 2 hp bar eating his ally to make my hook disappearing, or the allied veigar ult, or any projectile

kench is broken, yes certainlyt at least didn't design a support without counterplay that happens to literally negate champions

want me to say it again? can't wait for kench nerf

THE RlVER KlNGJan 18, 20181 votes

What I see there is Braum/Shen/Ali being picked more, and Leo and Taric being about the same. Who’d a thunk that in a meta with less enchanters Tahm would be playable again. He’s a niche pick who does one thing well and is rarely seen. Thresh is a generalist that takes over the meta when strong.

Regardless, you are again being a dick to someone who disagrees with you just to try and be antagonistic.

AhristocatsJan 18, 20181 votes

yea dude

kench with 100% ban/pick rate is sure a niche pick he's sure a niche pick when he can negate litearlly any attacks against him but thresh the generalist is being picked 1 time, and banned 2 times

sounds extremely fair

see why i avoid thresh discussions? because people like you are biased

thresh is garbage COMPARED to other supports he doesn't need buffs he doesn't need nerfs either, so why would riot nerf him by nerfing relic because of adcs? makes no sense at all

the one who needs nerfs is kench because he's overtuned right now and is a must pick, and if the kench has a brain and knows how to use devour at the right moment he can just single handly win the game, and hopefully he gets a huge kit change because devour has no counterplay and ruins high elo/competitive play