So i went afk (i was carrying the game) cause of electricity problems and after i went back i carried the game again but yet i lost anyway the lp so what is the point of returning? you are basically saying if you stay 3 min afk you might as well not help your tea anymore if you came back that ain't a good thing really
PhantomGG33 votesHonestly I feel for cases like this you should be allowed to pull out your cellphone film what's going on, and submit it to riot in your ticket.
DontTouchMyBall27 votesI've been there and it wasn't even a ranked, was just a normal. I was slightly annoyed about it
Velzard of Koz17 votesSeriously speaking, this is one of those tough subjects where it may be hard for them to balance it to make everyone happy. You afk'd for some time (not your fault in this case, but in case of other times of other people, sometimes it is) and the harm has already been done (yet again, you carried, but other times the afker is carried or the game is lost).
In other words, you feel harmed and it definitely is unfair as it doesn't encourage you to return to the game, however there are cases when someone who afks does not deserve the reward and If they were rewarded nontheless, other people would complain it does not discourage afking enough.
I'm not going to say which side has more frequency or is more relevant, just wanted to clarify the other side.
Jokingly speaking:
you might as well not help your tea anymore
Indeed let the tea be alone in it.
BigBonedCartman5 votes[{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YfkN5sB1,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-01-03T17:28:56.483+0000)
Seriously speaking, this is one of those tough subjects where it may be hard for them to balance it to make everyone happy. You afk'd for some time (not your fault in this case, but in case of other times of other people, sometimes it is) and the harm has already been done (yet again, you carried, but other times the afker is carried or the game is lost).
In other words, you feel harmed and it definitely is unfair as it doesn't encourage you to return to the game, however there are cases when someone who afks does not deserve the reward and If they were rewarded nontheless, other people would complain it does not discourage afking enough.
I'm not going to say which side has more frequency or is more relevant, just wanted to clarify the other side.
Jokingly speaking:
Indeed let the tea be alone in it.
it causes more harm than good because if someone afk and plays later usually means he did not ragequit and by doing this basically you are saying if i left 3 min might as well not help my team anymore
T4underbolt1 votesIt doesnt usually means he didnt ragequit. There are titlters who just go afk and then come back 5 minutes later to just afk farm and do nothing while base gets destroyed.
5th Reform1 votesLet's be honest here: in solo que, you're in it for the personal satisfaction of gaining LP needed to climb the ladder. Why, if you're going to lose LP for some reason you can't control, would you want to waste your time playing a game for technically; net loss? Just to be happy about the fact you might help secure the win for your team mates?
Spank the Fox13 votesIt’s not that tough. At worst, the DC’er that returns should be awarded 0 LP, not a LP penalty for winning a game. People who never reconnect lose LP. Simple.
Currently, if you disconnect for longer than 5 minutes, don’t even bother yreconnecting. Your team is going to flame you, you’re going to get punished with -LP and a good chance is it was beyond your control, therefore upsetting you in 3 different ways. Bad system is bad.
Malcha7 votesI would rather both the asshole and genuinely unlucky but ultimately helpful player gain LP for the win, than neither.
Considering the proportion of 4v5s that are losses/surrenders, it's much more likely people who win games with an afk involved the player coming back. Chances are this would help more people than it would hurt. Imo.
General Esdeath 6 votesI feel like the team should vote on it. I've had people quit because "I didn't get blue buff" and come back after 20 minutes because they're bored. I've also had people leave and come back in 10 minutes because their router acted up. Guess which one I'd vote to give LP to.
strut4 votesBump
Koutetsujô4 votesLess LP gains the more game you plays the more money riot makes. All part of the plann buddy they will never change it Kappanokappa
JoeMG3 votesI feel like riot should have a way to see if it's just a dropped connection, since your ping is monitored.
I had a period where my internet was bad and I was getting dc'd from almost half my games. I ended up getting a 14 day ban but I guess it was revoked after the first day. I always figured Riot looked into in and realized it was connection related.
Pandemic Punch2 votesRiot LOOKING INTO CASES? Now there is a good joke :D!
This post is nothing against you personally. I am just extremely resentful to Riot Support. :-)
TiltoverEnforcer3 votesAt the end of the day, losing 10-25 LP (depending on rank/mmr) isn't the end of the world. You could probably earn those points back faster than it would take for you to argue with Riot to get them back (which they don't and won't do).
orangejraffe1 votesReminder that a 10-25 loss compared to a 10-25 win requires 2 additional games to make up.
If each game takes the average 45 minutes that is an hour and half.
An email takes about 2 minutes, unless you're typing your email on your grandmas celery grinder.
PinkSalt3 votesPlease, speak English. I can hardly understand you.
But yeah, I understand (I think) what you're saying. Does suck to leave, come back and carry then still lose the LP. But I guess it's punishment for making your team work harder while you afked? I don't know, really.
Subdue2 votesHow does Riot determine whether you had connection issues or ragequit and then came back afterwards so as not to get caught by the leaverbuster?
BigBonedCartman4 votesHow does Riot determine whether you had connection issues or ragequit and then came back afterwards so as not to get caught by the leaverbuster?
you used to get penality anyway but not a lost assured
Raiyza3 votesThey don't. You have to plead your case in a ticket, which is fucking horseshit.
Wimbledofy2 votesBy it happening multiple times and maybe their chat messages? Toxic people and inters still gain lp, so why shouldn't a rage quitter who comes back get lp? If it's something they are intentionally doing then they should end up getting banned anyways so there is no harm done in giving them the lp for those few games.
ShuyinTheX2 votesI'm failing to understand what the issue is. You lost the game which results in losing LP, but you're complaining that you lost LP because you lost?
Yordle Xayah6 votesThey didn't lose the game.
ShuyinTheX2 votesAt no point in the post did he say he won the match. He said that he "carried", people carry in matches all the time and still lose a large number of them.
Lit Corn3 voteswhat , stop messing around now , you perfectly understood .
Yordle Xayah2 votesYou're joking... right?
And I Ult Sksksk3 votesProbably because you failed at reading comprehension. Try again and join the chat :)
ShuyinTheX1 votesNot everyone can understand engrish.
NCBuckets2 voteslol sorry i have a life and so i cant necessarily guarantee 45 minutes uninterrupted oh my bad
Violet Fields2 votesRiot should do us a favor and if you aren't able to get that LP they should fucking say it. Otherwise they shouldn't let you connect to the game so we can spend 20 minutes of our life, waiting for the game to end, doing something else.
ˉˉˉˉˉˉ1 votesMy point exactly. This is actually stupid.
And then there are the ones that defend Riot and go "bu-bu-but think of your TEAMMATES! The important thing is that you helped 4 OTHERS gain LP!!!!!!"
Iffy Jarl2 votesI don't understand you lost and you lost lp, are you saying if you afk/dc unavoidably you shouldn't lose lp?
I mean the incentive for coming back to the game is to win the game
ˉˉˉˉˉˉ1 votesHe won the game but still lost LP after carrying.
WELLSFARG0 BANK2 votesI think this sounds like a lot of entitlement.
PalPlays1 votesAgreed.
Finn Teh Human2 votesOn one hand I understand why Riot did it because you still have people who will straight up purposefully AFK and still be rewarded. Before this was made a thing a lot of people were mad that people could AFK and still get LP (which is totally unfair too.) I think Riot should make it so you only lose LP if 2+ teammates reported you.
ValyrianBlade2 votesIf you're not afk when the game ends, and played over 80% of the total game time, i think you should still get your reward for a win.
Sorry this happened to you.
deepfriedchicken2 votesplayy teeemo and satan willll bless u with guuud electrodes andd grate enjoyble times
88GLAM1 votesThis just happened to me earlier! I said I was brb'ing because of life interruptions and came back in the game around 5 minutes or so. My team was great just doing their thing and we all came out victorious. And this popped up, "You are ineligible to earn loot due to leaving or AFK behaviors." I was like okay, "loot just means chests and whatnot", but as I looked at my LP, I lost some. I am totally upset because I too did good in that match. So all in all, I guess, in my mind, Riot is making it clear that you can't have ANY interruptions within the match to even "earn loot" which is bullshit. Thanks a lot Rito :) [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Deadlíest1 votesif riot could give lp back that'd make people take advantage proof can easily be faked and people would just disconnect routers n shit, I dont think riot could really do something about it and everyone be happy. To add on, cmon bro if you need lp to be given back to you after losing kinda means u dont have what it takes to rank
Sihari1 votesTo add on, cmon bro if you need lp to be given back to you after losing kinda means u dont have what it takes to rank
The thing is that he didnt loose the game. He came back, he won and still lost the LP.
AbyssionKnight1 votesI agree that's a stupid move.
Honestly not sure if it's something automated 'You DC and the game automatically sets your lp to a predetermined negative amount, regardless of what happens afterward, or if it's related to some abuse case they've predicted or even experienced in the past. Either way, I do agree with you it's hitting a lot of innocent people whether it's intentional or not, and definitely does seem like it has a larger negative impact than a positive one.
vProCore1 votesLast 4 games im losing ranked whole 4 games flaming troling i report them all but is riot doing anything about that i dont thik so because this hapend many times before i report thend and what riot did is nothing .Last game i play adc my supp iz ez oh ok np and then he start stealing my farm whatever happens its my falut every single thing my fault is riot doing anything i dont think so im only one who happend this thing by the way im deliting this game
rival marnie1 votesYup, sometimes sadly it just happens. Hopefully Riot implements a decent fix soon.
PalPlays1 votesSo you're saying that you should gain LP if you lose?
Strigina4 votesAs far as I understand, he won the game after he returned but lost his LP.
Fleiryn1 votesYou should definitely post a replay, send ticket with replay and what you explained in post to riot and post their response back there. Well, I'd love to see that.
Banana 18 Bro1 votesWe've all been there but unfortunately that's not the game's problem. If you're having client issues and stuff sure, but with electricity nobody can predict when it's gonna stop lol.
Chromatic Eagle1 votesRiot has a zero tolerance policy on afking. It's like fighting in schools. It sucks, but it's understandable why they do it.
Seilleas1 votesWhy is this even a thing? If you leave you and don't return by the end of the game you don't get LP and most likely your team loses 4v5 If you return and you win what does it matter how its done, everyone is happy with their win and lp gained. It´s not like you´re getting LP for free. Why cant it be this way.