we at riot believe that varus old q damage was toxic xxdxdxdxdxdxd

BigBonedCartman·Jan 6, 2018·11 votes·934 views

are they monkeys or what? why did they even relase zoe at least varus didn't oneshot

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AhristocatsJan 6, 20185 votes

old varus had more range, didn't need to hit a second spell and his Q couldn't be blocked

:^)

BigBonedCartmanJan 6, 20181 votes

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old varus had more range, didn't need to hit a second spell and his Q couldn't be blocked

:^) what second spell zoe has to hit? if varus q was blocked he didn't do as much damage varus didn't have true damage lich bane passive a 0 cd bubble that allow him to be invulnerable to divers

AhristocatsJan 6, 20184 votes

First, Zoe cannot oneshot unless she lands E Second he actually had ult, his support, and E against divers

and you forgot many things, "if varus Q was blocked he didn't do as much damage " that's better than dealing 0 damage, and it still dealt a lot of damage and considering that he built tear and had 0 cd on Q he didn't waste anything

also his Q had by far more range than zoe Q

BigBonedCartmanJan 6, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=I am Rubick Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jseBj0us,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-06T16:59:14.018+0000)

First, Zoe cannot oneshot unless she lands E Second he actually had ult, his support, and E against divers

and you forgot many things, "if varus Q was blocked he didn't do as much damage " that's better than dealing 0 damage, and it still dealt a lot of damage and considering that he built tear and had 0 cd on Q he didn't waste anything

also his Q had by far more range than zoe Q

i don't really recall q range nerfs on varus when those happened?

AhristocatsJan 6, 20181 votes

that's right

varus Q has 1625 range Zoe Q has 800 range + ult is 525

KlydeFrogJan 6, 20182 votes

This is why I did the same lethality build people did on varus but with Caitlin . Her q basically did more damage due to less CD and basically if people stepped on your trap with thunderlords they we're dead

TiltThenWinJan 6, 20181 votes

What is everyone's problem with zoe I honestly think that champ is trash and so easy to lane against her skill shots are so telegraphed

YokoNomiJan 6, 20181 votes

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What is everyone's problem with zoe I honestly think that champ is trash and so easy to lane against her skill shots are so telegraphed

I do feel like I need to be clever with my shots just to land them. I'm only ever been mindless with the aim, if the kills are just being handed to me by either their team or my own, since it'll hit the mark regardless.

TiltThenWinJan 6, 20181 votes

I laugh at all these zoe complaints, when it comes to a champ that'd annoying I nominate Xerath safely poke from range with hard to dodge hit boxes makes Lux and her range look weak