So all Morgana got was a Visual Update & speed boost in her ult?

BeatzBoyFTW·Feb 20, 2019·4 votes·2,125 views

I thought Riot mentioned they were planning to change her W and ult. Either that, or they havent released her kit since I can only view Kayle's kit in PBE.

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SukishooFeb 20, 20197 votes

If you actually kept up with the news on her seen in blog posts and watched the 2019 video, or even reddit and twitter conversations you'd have known they changed their plans for her. They said they were looking at possibly changing those other aspects, not that they were 100% going to. Even in the original reveal it said nothing was finalized.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 20, 20196 votes

She is also getting a few number tweaks to her W: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267443525853904896/547510354532499496/image0.jpg

The number changes were always a maybe in regards to Morgana. Riot stated from the start that her kit was still basically completely fine, and there was a high chance of no changes being done, only a visual update

Done25Feb 20, 20193 votes

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She is also getting a few number tweaks to her W: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267443525853904896/547510354532499496/image0.jpg

The number changes were always a maybe in regards to Morgana. Riot stated from the start that her kit was still basically completely fine, and there was a high chance of no changes being done, only a visual update

The ult change doesn't really do anything to resolve the fact that Morgana, by her very nature, is a fairly squishy champion. Any ult that requires a very squishy champion to stay within a paltry 1050 range of her target(s) for a full three seconds simply isn't very useful. Even if she gets Zhonya's so they don't instantly nuke/peel her the long cook length means there is plenty of time to just...walk away. Even if she does land both parts the spell itself does barely any damage. A pathetic 300 / 450 / 600 (+ 140% AP) for landing both hits while Nunu does roughly double that at 625 / 950 / 1275 (+ 250% AP).

MiracleMorg94Feb 20, 20191 votes

Well Nunu is an AP tank jungler, and Morgana was a mid lane mage pushed support by Riot, so of course her ratios are smaller. Keep in mind that she gets to apply the same damage twice though on her ult while Nunu can't.

Done25Feb 20, 20192 votes

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Well Nunu is an AP tank jungler, and Morgana was a mid lane mage pushed support by Riot, so of course her ratios are smaller. Keep in mind that she gets to apply the same damage twice though on her ult while Nunu can't.

The numbers I used was if she lands both parts haha. Each hit is 150 / 225 / 300 (+ 70% AP) for a wimpy total of 300 / 450 / 600 (+ 140% AP) if she lands both hits.

MiracleMorg94Feb 20, 20191 votes

Oh I didn't realize you used both. But still it's because of her being a support is why her ratios aren't big.

Done25Feb 20, 20191 votes

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Oh I didn't realize you used both. But still it's because of her being a support is why her ratios aren't big.

That has nothing to do with it. It's a tethered spell that needs a full 3.5 seconds to off. (0.5 second cast time with a 3 second cook duration). It should hit like a truck if she manages to land it, or it should be made easier to land in respect to how weak and clunky her "ultimate spell" is.

Sona's R is 150 / 250 / 350 (+ 50% AP) for an instant stun of the same duration.

KazekibaFeb 25, 20191 votes

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That has nothing to do with it. It's a tethered spell that needs a full 3.5 seconds to off. (0.5 second cast time with a 3 second cook duration). It should hit like a truck if she manages to land it, or it should be made easier to land in respect to how weak and clunky her "ultimate spell" is.

Sona's R is 150 / 250 / 350 (+ 50% AP) for an instant stun of the same duration.

Honestly modernizing her Ult, she could just instantly root everyone around her for a short duration and drain all damage they take, regardless of source, from targets marked for the next 3/5/7 seconds. But that would take effort, which Riot clearly had no intention of doing.

Pale CrowFeb 20, 20193 votes

Adding to this, considering she's probably still gonna have to Zhonya's to survive the duration, this change is pretty worthless

The EcdysiastFeb 20, 20193 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wilk Łucznik,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lPMRYYLE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-20T02:10:33.054+0000)

She is also getting a few number tweaks to her W: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267443525853904896/547510354532499496/image0.jpg

The number changes were always a maybe in regards to Morgana. Riot stated from the start that her kit was still basically completely fine, and there was a high chance of no changes being done, only a visual update

Her kit isn't fine though. She has no passive.

SaezioFeb 20, 20193 votes

I wish they had changed morgana or picked another champ to rework. This scale of changes might as well have been just random nerfs/buffs/tweaks in some random patch.

KazekibaFeb 20, 20193 votes

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I wish they had changed morgana or picked another champ to rework. This scale of changes might as well have been just random nerfs/buffs/tweaks in some random patch.

They didn't really want to rework Morg. Her visuals are pretty outdated but she holds up well as a Champion. She's certainly not in a more dire need than say, Mundo or Pantheon. She's just collateral with a Kayle update

Done25Feb 20, 20191 votes

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They didn't really want to rework Morg. Her visuals are pretty outdated but she holds up well as a Champion. She's certainly not in a more dire need than say, Mundo or Pantheon. She's just collateral with a Kayle update

Yea but while they're touching her up they could do...something.

xDogMeatxFeb 20, 20192 votes

sounds like morgana got boring to play after the kayle update. while kayle looks like the fun one. nice to know thematically they are polar opposites. kayle is fun while morgana is anti fun. great theme we have going here

KazekibaFeb 24, 20191 votes

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sounds like morgana got boring to play after the kayle update. while kayle looks like the fun one. nice to know thematically they are polar opposites. kayle is fun while morgana is anti fun. great theme we have going here

And Kayle is a crazy murderer while Morgana wants to protect innocent mages from those big bad Demacians! ... Wait why is Morgana the good one? Isn't her whole theme "My life is torment and my magic makes you feel as bad as I do"? Who wrote this

xDogMeatxFeb 24, 20191 votes

why am i theory crafting that in some crazy secret background lore (in other words my theory only) garens ult is actually kayles ult shapen into a (unknown by garen) magic sword that delivers magic execute damage to enemies to true execute damage villains to smite them. that could explain his ult very well considering how he is accepting it as "justice!!!" sword (prayer stance) SMITING them. since kayle punishes evil using her divine will it would make sense that her will is instilled into garens sword by at least some degree. which in result can turn her ultimate into a offensive attack. at least thats what im thinking currently.