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Jhin goes from one of the worst ADCs in the game to the top pick rate 4th in winrate

THE RlVER KlNG··9 votes·1,123 views

##all because of lethality

(higher pick rate than Cait, Lucian, Xayah, only below MF, Draven, and Twitch [the latter two demonstratively broken right now and the former abusing the same shit as Jhin] in winrate)

I'm so effing sick of either we have League of Lethality where everyone and their mother is bursting you before you can even react or we have an unbearable crit trinity of Twitch/Cait/Xayah. Now, it's both simultaneously, with Draven being a complete monster as well. There hasn't been a proper balanced ADC meta since before the class update - it's either pen is broken or crit is or both.

Please for the love of God stop with this redundant cycle of buffing lethality and expecting it not to cause massive power shifts and numerous abuse cases. I never wanted pen Jhin back in meta and it's infuriating to see it happen and Riot pretending that it wouldn't. You keep refusing to accept that Jhin and MF are broken with lethality even after you pounded Varus's knees in for the same thing. Change something about these kits or nerf lethality YET AGAIN because there is no fun to be had with these two champions buying items made for assassins and capitalizing off of strengths and stats that don't belong to them.

And it's not just ADCs. Lethality junglers. Pantheon and Jayce as toxic as ever. Talon shutting down 95% of mid and top lane matchups. Duskblade being oppressive and bought on champions from Kha'Zix to Vayne to Jhin. Zed in every other game. Games ending even sooner. Four champs on your team with Dirk at the same time and four with Duskblade/Yomuu's. Snowball to Herald to easy quick win. Lethality metas are zero fun to 75% of the parties involved, with the other 25% AD casters and assassins nuking everyone else out of orbit.

Hell yeah this post is salty because I just really effing hate lethality metas.

13 Comments

Salron7 votes

Apparently 49.62% WR with a 27% PR before lethality changes is "one of the worst ADCs in the game"

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

Him and Ezreal sat at the bottom of winrates

He had like 47% if I remember correctly and his pickrate didn't exceed 15%

I may be wrong however but lethality definitely caused him to shoot upwards

Blakiepug2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Face The Win,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lO9z2nwu,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-07-18T04:40:59.129+0000)

Apparently 49.62% WR with a 27% PR before lethality changes is "one of the worst ADCs in the game"

So much this. Jhin wasn't nearly as bad as people said he was. Everyone was just salty that they actually had to practice the champion to be good with him for once. Jhin is not a low skill cap champion, and as such should not be sitting at a 50+% win rate as this indicates that players new to the champ are not struggling as much as they should be.

Ahristocats6 votes

it's not really lethality's fault

jhin needs an indepth kit change to have lethality build having weaknesses on him

currently the weaknesses of crit jhin are: -needs 3 or 4 items to really work with tons of damage, bonus movement speed ect... relies a lot on RNG until then -doesn't do a lot of damage from range due to spells not having armor pen

first weakness is literally removed with lethality

i already suggested it, Every moment matters should not have a base 30% ad amplification

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

and the circle is complete now I am the one saying Jhin had been weak and you are saying his kit is flawed

hhaavviikk4 votes

or he already was strong but sheep gonna sheep

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

I've always been an outspoken critic of Jhin, check my history

Yaskamasandwich4 votes

Jhin was never weak. He's always meta due to how his kit can adapt to changes, and how different and fun it is. Lethality meta? Okay for Jhin, strong early game that usually drops off a cliff at a certain point. Usually when he can't kill tanky champions at all. Crit meta? That's fine too, sacrifice an early game for a strong late game. Requires positioning, peel, and timing. If done correctly you'll wreck anything. Basically Jhin will forever be meta.

Calabok2 votes

Oh Yea?

Divewing1 votes

Trigger warning - Personal opinion follows

Wouldn't be half as bullshit if the game wasn't so heavily dictated by what happens in the first 10 minutes

TheFancySkeleton1 votes

Wait, Jhin was weak? He's the only ADC I can actually do something with! You do realize your opinion doesn't matter here. That is true. Then be quiet. Alright.

TheFancySkeleton1 votes

Let it be clear that I was talking to myself.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

If lethality ADCs are broken, and crit ADCs are broken, AND Draven is broken, doesn't that mean the ADCs are completely balanced? (except Ezreal lol gfy on-hit abuser)

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