Don't Fucking Touch Vel Koz

MeatThrottle··11 votes·754 views

I'm sure other people will have well thought out and clearly defined arguments with an overall nicer tone. But I'm just saying as someone who has been playing for five years and what I've seen of your "reworks" of other champions, don't you dare touch my floating eyeball of doom. He's fine the way he is. Leave it. I have no desire to have him reworked, then gutted and left to rot for years on end. Your track record speaks for itself.

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DunkinNoobs3 votes

How many bad reworks have we honestly had in recent memory? Cassiopeia and Mordekaiser? Maybe a few questionable ones? Sona Rengar Skarner

What about all of the successful reworks? Ahri Ashe Caitlyn Corki Darius Fiora Gangplank Garen Gragas Graves Heimerdinger Maokai MasterYi MissFortune Nidalee Poppy Quinn Sejuani Sion Soraka Tristana Twitch Veigar Viktor Xerath Zilean

BetweenSkill1 votes

It's less about what's been successful and what hasn't been, and more about the negative backlash regarding him being reworked and if they are actually going to listen to the player base.

When was Lee was going to be updated they stopped it when there was outcry. Vel'Koz is the LAST champion that needs a rework right now.

DunkinNoobs2 votes

They stopped the Lee rework because it was objectively terrible, not simply because of community backlash. And people haven't even seen what Riot intends for Vel'koz and they're already up in arms about it.

And looking at him for changes is honestly warranted. He's the least popular champion released (including reworks) in the last 2 years and has made absolutely 0 impact on competitive League of Legends. The only champion released in the past 2 years that even comes close to Vel's level of irrelevance is Illaoi, and I'd argue the only reason she's made no impact is because she's just plain bad. And honestly, I have far more faith in Riot's ability to give him a good rework than most people here seem to.

BetweenSkill1 votes

The sentiment of "Don't fix what isn't broken, especially when there's about a few dozen other things to fix first" rings true with many people here.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

An understandable sentiment, but not particularly warranted imo. Many of the best reworks we've gotten were on champs that were "fine".

BetweenSkill1 votes

Best reworks? You mean Poppy and Sion? Because those two champions were the definition of "not fine" before their reworks.

Vekkna1 votes

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How many bad reworked have we honestly had in recent memory? Cassiopeia and Mordekaiser? Maybe a few questionable ones? Sona Rengar Skarner

What about all of the successful reworks? Ahri Ashe Caitlyn Corki Darius Fiora Gangplank Garen Gragas Graves Heimerdinger Maokai MasterYi MissFortune Nidalee Poppy Quinn Sejuani Sion Soraka Tristana Twitch Veigar Viktor Xerath Zilean

Darius Fiora Garen Heimerdinger MasterYi Nidalee Soraka Veigar

Cancer champs and balancing nightmares are not the bar for "success."

DunkinNoobs1 votes

Noob stompers aren't automatically balancing nightmares.

Vekkna1 votes

No, not for balance at Plat-Diamond. For balance between tiers, a lot of those champs are nightmares. They're too strong in low ELO and to weak to be viable in LCS. Or they're balanced/strong in LCS and too weak/strong everywhere else.

From that list, Quinn and Poppy are the only ones I look at and thing "yeah, they did a great job there." I realize that's not a very common opinion.

WookieJesuz3 votes

I was one of the lucky few and got a response from a riot. They said celcoz changes were going to be on thr small side. Likely keeping his distinct abilities, q and R. Take a look back yourself and ask if his W is more than just "push minion wave". He needs some work, but not much, and likely will be very similar after the update.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

Sion feels disrespected

GreenLore1 votes

Overall they said that they have already an idea what they could do with him,so I guess it is more something like a "we have a cool idea for him and want to use this chance to make it real" rather than "omg we really need to rework this guy"

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