Save your threads, Riot will not change Fiora back

MeatThrottle··11 votes·2,325 views
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And we'll all deal with it. You know why? Because we've dealt with it in the past. We've sat down and taken it and there's always a few threads that complain about it and maybe 5 people say they are leaving League forever and the rest of us just sit and keep playing and spending money on RP. The link I posted is an old thread, by Sir Starke that got over 6000 upvotes and in the end nothing happened. The original post was edited into a farewell and I doubt anyone remembers it anymore, or was there when it happened. The original post was not just decrying the at the time 6300 champion increase, but the general direction of the game and community management. And this was 3 years ago. Before they started releasing every champ at 7800

We've already dealt with it. There's actually this champion called Galio and he had this skin called Gatekeeper Galio that was a Legendary with all these cool effects. And then he got changed and all the spells are the same as his base skin just recolored green. And you know what? I own that skin. I paid money for that skin and then they made it worse. And I'm still here because I know I couldn't drum up enough interest to make people care and even if I could nothing would change. And I'm still playing this game because I'm addicted like all of you.

So save it. This is the future we all let happen and will keep letting happen. Give it another week or two and this Fiora furor will pass. And we'll all still be here.

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Legacy of Xion4 votes

Why should I get emotionally invested in characters when Riot can and will utterly destroy the characters I know and fell in love with?

Fiora has been turned into an old hag. I'm just waitng for Kayle and Morgana. For Ahri, Caitlyn.

This is why they did to Fiora. You saw what they did to Trundle and Karma.

Why should I give a fuck anymore, if all I've connected to is ripped away and changed, for the worse?

HowPlayGAEM3 votes

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MeatThrottle1 votes

It's more than that though. You would need people to actively stop playing for an extended period of time. Just saying "Don't buy RP" won't help, because the longer you play, the more likely you are to forget the latest outrage when something really cool comes along and buy it with RP. I once swore I would never buy RP but now I've spent well over a hundred dollars.

Tesla Effect3 votes

Gee, did you think all these negative criticisms would work in your favor, thats not how the world works.

MeatThrottle4 votes

Could ask that of all the people making these threads. The Fiora rework is happening no matter how many people complain. You honestly think you're gonna change the mind of IronStylus or anyone at Riot? Until we stop playing, nothing will change, and that won't happen since we're all addicted.

Tesla Effect1 votes

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Could ask that of all the people making these threads. The Fiora rework is happening no matter how many people complain. You honestly think you're gonna change the mind of IronStylus or anyone at Riot? Until we stop playing, nothing will change, and that won't happen since we're all addicted.

They are also addicts in complaining thats what I see.

TerraRising6 votes

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Could ask that of all the people making these threads. The Fiora rework is happening no matter how many people complain. You honestly think you're gonna change the mind of IronStylus or anyone at Riot? Until we stop playing, nothing will change, and that won't happen since we're all addicted.

I'll give you a better example, but I can't find the exact post because Rito.

Back in 2013, during the Trundle disaster when outrage was at a peak, either GrumpyMonkey or IronStylus came out and said that anyone who complained about that rework were a vocal but insignificant minority who needed to shut up and accept that things were different about it. They then started whining when that went over as well as you'd expect.

The saddest part is that the only lesson they learned from THAT rework is to never offer Traditional skins for fans of the original and to never offer refunds for customers upset with the rework. They still don't communicate their reasons all that well (when they bother to) and they trundle along (no pun intended) with what they want to do, regardless of whether or not they make promises (Stashu's abandonment of the Cassiopeia changes in order to work on Fiora.)

Tesla Effect1 votes

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I'll give you a better example, but I can't find the exact post because Rito.

Back in 2013, during the Trundle disaster when outrage was at a peak, either GrumpyMonkey or IronStylus came out and said that anyone who complained about that rework were a vocal but insignificant minority who needed to shut up and accept that things were different about it. They then started whining when that went over as well as you'd expect.

The saddest part is that the only lesson they learned from THAT rework is to never offer Traditional skins for fans of the original and to never offer refunds for customers upset with the rework. They still don't communicate their reasons all that well (when they bother to) and they trundle along (no pun intended) with what they want to do, regardless of whether or not they make promises (Stashu's abandonment of the Cassiopeia changes in order to work on Fiora.)

Cant blame they, they did the right thing in shutting down the idiots. There is time when someone deserves good treatment, and then they are LoL complainers, who deserve nothing.

MeatThrottle6 votes

Tesla can you please stop shilling all over the place? We get it, Riot is great and can do no wrong and we're just ungrateful fuckwits, as opposed to people actually concerned about this game that they love.

Just bury your head in the sand.

TerraRising6 votes

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Cant blame they, they did the right thing in shutting down the idiots. There is time when someone deserves good treatment, and then they are LoL complainers, who deserve nothing.

I feel really sorry for you and those around you.

Knight Auditor3 votes

Uninstalled yesterday, tbh. It's not just Fiora, that would be a silly reason to drop the game. Lots of little reasons and big ones. Losing all respect for Riot's art department was just the last one on the pile. I simply spend too much time dealing with the stupid decisions of power-mad egomaniacs in my actual job to waste my free time doing more of the same.

There are plenty of game developers that design towards their player base instead of circle-jerking to absurd 'philosophies' about game design. Imma go with some of those for a change and see how that works for me.

MeatThrottle1 votes

To be fair, a balance needs to be struck between having a philosophy in game design and listening to the playerbase. I don't see why it always has to be one or the other. It is true that people will always complain but in this case, I think the complaints are valid and the symptoms of a much larger problem.

Ben Sharpio7 votes

Uninstalled yesterday

Ok, see you in a week!

GreenLore3 votes

They already did change Fioras splash art and ingame models a bit. And its not the first time they listened to the community: The splash arts of Ahri Katarina MonkeyKing & Tristana were all improved because we voiced our opinion on them. Jinx skin color was adjusted because we wanted her pale.

I agree it is delusional to think they are gonna revert the update completely,they won't throw so much work out of the window,but it is not like we don't have any influence on these things either.

MeatThrottle1 votes

Point is, the overall change is still a net loss. Great, it's less horrible, but the old model is still better.

Femcel2 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/07/724-pbe-update.html#more This happened today. Not a complete revert but damn near close. Thank GOD Rito listened. THIS is what I call a VU. Already looks 10x better.

Rune Ocarina1 votes

Haha, does this thread seem awkard now.

Either way, WOO-HOO~!

Wero341 votes

Once Ahri splash art got his face changed, so why not

MeatThrottle1 votes

They might change it. But overall I feel it will be still inferior to the old skin, which I really didn't see any problems with it. Besides changing a few marks on a splash art is different from all these new models and splash arts they made. Even though it looks like it was done in 5 minutes, this is months of work, they would look bad if they backpedaled fully and left it now.

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