"Lee Sin probably shouldn't just shit on people." -Morello

Learn 2 Swim·3/12/2015, 6:45:59 PM·11 votes·1,644 views

Explain why Riot has nerfed almost 20 junglers this season and Lee isn't one of them then?

Why can you gut certain champions like Veigar with out any thought but other champions like Lee, Ahri, Zed, Nidalee get "thoughtful reworks" that slightly shift their balance of power but always keep them in the meta. Your balance team seems to put a great deal more effort into certain champions and doesn't give a shit about others.

If Final Boss Veigar made as much money as any random Lee Sin skin would we have gotten a Veigar rework that gave him 3 dashes and a speed boost every time he tossed out his Q?

22 Comments

Gorsz3/12/2015, 6:53:47 PM4 votes

Its obvious that Riot is not a professional gaming company, so you should not treat them as such. I mean, if you really think about it, the company was started with underhanded backstabbing by Guinsoo, and theft of DotA ideas from DotA website.

Money will make people do fucked up things, and Riot is 100% about the money. Veigar isnt "flashy" enough so they dont give a fuck about him, and they could care less for people whos invested in that champion for years. Only thing that matters to Riot is tournament streams and selling skins.

TehNACHO3/12/2015, 6:54:33 PM3 votes

Probably because Lee Sin, on average, loses more games than he wins.

Ethillectual3/12/2015, 7:10:26 PM2 votes

Most people would say that Lee Sin is only strong Early to Mid game, call your post rageful, and leave. However, Many of the base stats of the champions you have mentioned are extremely similar and they have absolutely different kits. For one, Lee is an all in character who has only one source of champion "catch-out" control (which is his ultimate). Later in the game, initiating a teamfight with only an average early lead is definite to lose the Lee Sin a game in average elo matches. You see "nerfs" on various junglers. After reading prior patch notes, It has come to my attention that these junglers have not been nerfed either. Only a handful of them have true stat deductions (that too very minute). Also, Ahri, Veigar, and Nidalee should not be compared with your method due to their kits and the fact that they are ranged. The jungle meta is one suited for jungle farming specifically, not for team composition picks. Riot has definitely balanced the champion pool as a whole in a way I see very effective. You need to realize that these changes are in relativity to the champion kit and behaviours, not just their numerical value. Riot has not shown any bias among any of its champions. Jumping back to my first implied assertion - Lee Sin is only strong early (under standard gold values).

OhOkYea3/12/2015, 6:56:12 PM1 votes

Personally I think veiger needs another nerf to his damage output

Faith Breaker3/12/2015, 8:20:55 PM1 votes

I think Lee should at least take someone to dinner before shitting on them. I mean, come on. He's blind, but that's no excuse for not having class.