@Riot Jungle Kassadin?

Col B·Oct 12, 2015·31 votes·2,443 views

I think a nice change to would be to allow his "Q" to shield from monster damage in the jungle that way he could have a safer and better clear. At first jungle sounds a bit silly but in reality most of the AP assassins can be played effectively either mid or in the jungle ( ,, , and ). Since works really well with his kit I think the change would be a nice buff to without actually having to change any his numbers.

(Plus with Cosmic Reaver coming out soon I think it would be nice to see another lane besides mid getting to experience the awesomeness.)

44 Comments

RalanrOct 12, 20155 votes

Is mid his only lane?

If so then yeah, let him jungle.

SquarefighterOct 13, 20152 votes

He can go top pretty well too as a counterpick.

Kitty von TunaOct 13, 20152 votes

Only if the top laner is ap..

ARequestOfDeathOct 13, 20151 votes

and isn't mixed damage

DirkTarTarOct 13, 20151 votes

or a garbage player

plantersOct 14, 20151 votes

correct me if im wrong but i thought kassadin could go against an AD champion if he built bruiser like iceborn and frozen heart into his standard build of rod and athenes?

SquarefighterOct 14, 20151 votes

Well that's why I mentioned he's good as a counterpick. I recommend picking him into Ekko because if Kass ults over Ekko's Q and has charges of his E up he's out trade Ekko pretty well.

khorneyOct 12, 20154 votes

red smite all the way

LadyRenlyOct 13, 20154 votes

I don't see why it can't just shield from "damage" and not just magic damage specifically.

Tannhäuser GateOct 13, 20153 votes

Because then he could be picked into ad lanes top and mid

Auz the RipperOct 13, 20156 votes

I really don't see the problem with that. The "Anti-mage" concept is intertwined with the concept of Hard counters, or the game being decided in champion select. Which is something riot has said time and time again they don't want to happen

idokiOct 13, 20152 votes

Well Kassadin in general is extremely unhealthy to the game design philosophy of Riot...

xFrostKnightxOct 13, 20151 votes

Riot: Kassadin has too much mobility....

Cripples Kassadins legs so he is weak and less mobile

Riot: Good new's everyone, We're releaseing a bunch of high mobility champions and items. :D item 3742 item 3285 Ekko Gnar RekSai Yasuo Kalista Kindred

Ps: Kassadin is riftwalking once every 30 seconds.... Needs a nerf.

RalanrOct 13, 20152 votes

No...rift walking is fine as is.

NarasimhaOct 13, 20151 votes

Not really. There are plenty of 'anti' champions in League. Malphite - Anti AD, defense oriented. Rammus - Anti AD, defense oriented. Trynd - Anti AD, offense oriented. Galio - Anti AP, defense oriented. Trundle - Anti bruiser, offense oriented Panth - Anti AA, offense oriented

And so on and so forth. Kass is just the anti AP offensive version.

Auz the RipperOct 13, 20151 votes

The difference is that in most of those cases only one element of the kit benefits from a certain enemy, allowing them to successfully fight champions other than their favorites with relative ease, unlike Kassadin.

Tryndamere's only Anti-AD ability is mocking shout

Galio's only anti-AP is his passive and that's just a incentive to buy MR (his W is equally good against AD)

Trundle's kit is really good at killing anything that gets and stays in melee range, Bruisers just tend to fit that requirement more often.

Pantheon I wouldn't really consider Anti-AA, his passive is good but it's not like jax's counterstrike

Malphite and rammus have a lot of utility that lets them fight their non-preferred enemy and they both have ways of mitigating magic damage (malphite's passive and rammus's defensive ball curl).

RalanrOct 13, 20151 votes

Pantheon is more anti AA crit.

Though late game it doesn't help against a fed Yi. Pretty sure nothing stops a fed Yi.

Auz the RipperOct 13, 20151 votes

A fed Jax and/or Malzahar come to mind

SkiasOct 14, 20151 votes

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I don't see why it can't just shield from "damage" and not just magic damage specifically.

It would also help him get through his god awful early game. You literally can barely survive it against any opponent.

Crys3sOct 13, 20154 votes

Like fizz and ekko, I would agree that Kass has a lot of gank utility - especially with the slow.

flying banelingsOct 13, 20153 votes

yes pls do this rito

JediSenpaiNPOct 13, 20153 votes

Dude, i've tried this for a few games before i found the post. i must say, the q change would be helpful. Currently, he takes so much damage from the first clear its ridiculous, and he becomes far to easy to get first-blooded by a counterjungle at all.

XenohazOct 13, 20152 votes

That's a cool idea and I definitely like the idea of another AP jungle, but it would have some issues in terms of clarity. Since monsters do physical damage and it is currently just a magic shield, what would it look like on his health bar? If it looked like a normal shield it would be misleading, but the same would be true if it looked the way it does now.

lHikariAiOct 13, 20152 votes

There is a dude in EU, i don't remember his ELO but was at least Diamond, that only plays Kassadin Jungle AD. And he owns the game.

casusoOct 13, 20151 votes

I LIKE IT

TwoDOct 13, 20151 votes

Eve is shit mid lol

WookieJesuzOct 13, 20151 votes

Strategic Diversity! I love it! Kassadino has been struggling for a while so it would be nice to see him have some more options. Riot you are all about this stuff right?

The QuinndredOct 13, 20151 votes

My friend actually tried this the other day. He got extremely fed somehow. I have no fucking clue how.

RyzeReworkOct 13, 20151 votes

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My friend actually tried this the other day. He got extremely fed somehow. I have no fucking clue how.

The reason is because kassadin weakest phase of the game is his laneing phase so if you just avoid it your like already bettwr :p

maikokkOct 13, 20151 votes

ya hes way too underpowered ATM and letting him jung would fix this without turning him into facemelter again.

LordForrestOct 13, 20151 votes

At first i was like hell naw, then i thought about, and now i wanna do it. Jeez, level 6 would be so much fun for invades or baron/dragon steals.

xFrostKnightxOct 13, 20151 votes

After having his mobility Nerfed and denied the balance he deserved. Kassadin lost his cool and now wonders the jungle by the name Karzan swinging on trees.

Riot: Hmm... Kassadin swinging with vines.... Too much mobility. Nerfed. ** releases 5 high mobility champions after**

3tysonOct 13, 20151 votes

If this happend id actually buy this bulshit champ

it seems like fun popping out of nowhere into a lane slowwing them

a bit like shaco

Earl EulrichOct 13, 20151 votes

i actually jungle him occasionally since S2, wouldn´t mind buffs though.

Actually xPekeOct 13, 20151 votes

Make his Q shield just block all damage instead of magic damage. It's a pretty garbage shield atm

ARequestOfDeathOct 13, 20151 votes

i have seen literally every ap assassin go jungle yes even Leblanc and Katarina

RalanrOct 13, 20151 votes

How?

I mean, I like to imagine the jungle as the assassins playground. But, how?

ARequestOfDeathOct 14, 20151 votes

i saw a crit ad kat jungle that did well

RalanrOct 14, 20151 votes

But doesn't she have horrible AD scalings?

ARequestOfDeathOct 16, 20151 votes

ok lemme check

kat q 45%+15% ap scaling

kat w 25% ap scaling and 60% bonus ad

kat e 25% ap scaling

kat ult 250% total ap scaling and 375% bonus ad scaling

got this from http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/katarina/

Sergeant StephenOct 13, 20151 votes

You completely forgot Diana.

ValrunOct 13, 20151 votes

I play him AD Jungle and it's really fun.

The high base AD and mobility you get from his R are amazing! I've never played AP Kass in my life though so I wouldn't exactly know where to start for him in the Jungle.