Where is the counterplay to Vi's ultimate?

ibeturgood·5/30/2015, 3:38:03 AM·9 votes·2,957 views

I'm sure all the Vi mains will come in here and swear up and down it's fine in its current state but there is no fucking thing you can do about it if she uses her immense skill to hover the mouse over you and press r. Every other suppression ultimate can be cleansed but the longest range one isn't? This is completely unfair. The main retort people will have is "position better" but when someone has 1400 range in fucking dashes what is even the point of leaving fountain? And it is not always yourself you have to worry about, it is also your teammates.

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Deep Terror Nami5/30/2015, 3:59:19 AM4 votes

It's not supposed to be easily countered. Why else do you think they added "Vi can't be CC'd during Assault & Battery"?

RpgDusky5/30/2015, 4:07:26 AM2 votes

Flash under your tower or deep into your team or zhonyas. Counterplay. Vi can't stop her ult, she goes where you go.

SgtCrispy5/30/2015, 5:35:29 AM2 votes

I honestly think Vi's ult is pretty dumb too, not sure why they made it so you can't QSS it. It pretty much just makes her a flat out better version of Warwick.

Ash Lockheart5/30/2015, 3:40:20 AM2 votes

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I'm sure all the Vi mains will come in here and swear up and down it's fine in its current state but there is no fucking thing you can do about it if she uses her immense skill to hover the mouse over you and press r. Every other suppression ultimate can be cleansed but the longest range one isn't? This is completely unfair. The main retort people will have is "position better" but when someone has 1400 range in fucking dashes what is even the point of leaving fountain? And it is not always yourself you have to worry about, it is also your teammates.

I am not a vi main, but I will say nothing is wrong with her ult. It has a high cooldown, and It does not do much damage. Its mostly used for ganks, or to get that adc azz. If you are saying vi's ult is Op then I feel bad for those who have to deal with you.

MLDzXnRRR5/30/2015, 4:59:14 AM1 votes

Vi can 100-0 any ADC/APC/Support with her combo, because of the knockback from Q and the knockup/back from R. You are basically CCed the whole time without ability to return any dmg, while she is using her abilities. After the combo she has the % hp passive to finish you. People don't even bother to build AD with her. She can be tank and still outdamage most of the champions. % HP is what allows mini Gnar to be a terror even with tank build. Vi has it too

3TWarrior5/30/2015, 5:00:53 AM1 votes

counterplay? she's a jungler meant to take out a single target and burst targets silly enough to be behind that one target. She's like zed...but melee ranged, doesn't have 2 instant blinks, isn't un-targetable while ulting, typically has slow attack speed to spare for her health shred and when she goes in her only escape is flash or if a fight somehow drags out long enough to Q away

does Vi even have enough tank stats to pull off her damage role with tanky items?

Droogzy5/30/2015, 5:02:10 AM1 votes

I hate Vi, but the way to deal with the counterplay is after she her ult: shut her off from her team and peel for whoever she ulted onto. She relies heavily on follow up, if she doesn't get that follow up, she's screwed.

ayNigerianPrince5/30/2015, 5:34:16 AM1 votes

qetzel5/30/2015, 1:29:28 PM1 votes

There isn't counterplay to any particular champion ability.

There is counterplay to a champion.

Once Vi presses R, she has committed to the fight. If you are behind your team, move to one side. If you are too far away, try to get closer. Once she is in, your team can CC and burst her. Have your support or tank peel the rest of the team - Vi goes in alone.

You can't get out of her ultimate. You can play around it. That is the counterplay.

BluePolarizer5/30/2015, 4:10:40 AM1 votes

So what is the counterplay to ADC autoattacks?

Why do I always hear crickets or shitty bronze excuses from ADC mains when I ask this?

Cindikle5/30/2015, 4:14:17 AM1 votes

Hourglass Fizz pole Vlad pool Ekko ulti Bard Lissandra self ulti Zed ulti(I think, he is rooted for it's duration. QSS may be required) Morgana Shield Sivir shield Olaf Nocturne shield

It has counterplay. Very limited counterplay. But it has it. It was meant to work this way.

skyfall6195/30/2015, 4:21:59 AM1 votes

its just one of those things that we live with.