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How do you counter these champions?

RandomLoser54·11/3/2014, 11:20:36 PM·1 votes·900 views

I'll go over a couple champions and their kits.

Garen Passive - While out of combat, gain health regen 6x higher than Dr. Mundo (Really though, his new passive is RIDICULOUS) Q - Spammable targeted 2.5 second silence nuke that applies to towers, removes slows and gives tons of movement speed W - Passive: Become 20% Tankier Active: 20 Second CD slightly worse Alistar ult that gives 30% tenacity E - 330% AD Scaling DPS aura that can crit and ignores unit collision R - 175-525 +25-40% Missing Health +Scaling missing health ranged targeted magic damage

Riot removes the silence of every other assassin, but then they don't care about Garen, let alone they BUFFED him?

Rammus Passive - 25% of your armor is now AD! Q - 300 Base damage spammable Sion ultimate that scales off 100% AP and Slows by 40%, knocks up and is AOE W - 40-120 Free armor and magic resist every 8 seconds that gives you a free thornmail E - 2.25 Second ranged targeted taunt that reduces armor" R - 1560 (+240% AP) AOE Magic Damage over time that applies to turrets on a minute cooldown

He is gamebreakingly broken. You CANNOT escape from him and he makes your carry utterly useless, he is a tank and an assassin.

Warwick Passive - Infinite sustain and dueling power Q - Spammable 400 Range 16% Max health 100% Ap targeted nuke that heals W - 80% Attack Speed steroid (Your team gains half the amount) E - 40% Movespeed if any enemy is in range of a Pantheon ultimate below 50% health R - Targeted 1 shotting nuke on an adc that applies on hit effects

The absolute definition of anti fun. On every single champion I have to spend 1550 gold on a QSS and even then, his ult is on a lower cooldown

Udyr Passive - Improve all effects of your abilities Q - 70% attack speed steroid that makes your basic attacks deal 15% bonus damage and lasts longer than its cooldown, AND a 1.6 AD Scaling nuke. W - Free shield and infinite jungle sustain E - Spammable 35% movespeed bonus that can be used to chain stun R - One shot every camp for late game

How am I supposed to kite a champ with 600+ movespeed?

7 Comments

ArtoriusIV11/3/2014, 11:24:13 PM1 votes

Rammus, if you tank wall him so he hits them with his power ball he is useless.

Udyr, Kite.

Featherztorm11/3/2014, 11:44:10 PM1 votes

Riot removes the silence of every other assassin, but then they don't care about Garen, let alone they BUFFED him?

There you have it. Garen's not an assassin. Cho still has his silence. Irelia has her disable. Every bruiser/tank has some form of CC be it a silence, stun, knock-up, or throw.

I know you're being funny about the Rammus assassin thing so I won't mention it.

Now, the harder of those champs to counter is Garen, other than shut him down early, and keep him shut down (Which is harder than it seems) and don't focus him in team fights, let him be the last one killed. Rammus just kite him around minions or walls, have flash handy. If he taunts you, well get you some tenacity. He's pretty weak early on, so don't let the game go on, too, long, and don't let him get too far ahead. Same with Warwick. Thornmail takes care of him if he gets too strong. If you're an adc/mage, just kite him. Udyr, same thing.. Kite and CC.

Rew71111/3/2014, 11:44:29 PM1 votes

Garen's Q is his only good attack. If you take it, you can dish out more in a counter. His passive will only work when he is out of combat. His armor and magic resist are weak at first so he isn't hard.

Ramous deals with mostly with his Q then E and finishes with the W and/or R. (His ult seems to have a shorter cool down to me.) His moves won't dish out much damage if you have armor. Also, try and get AP champs to fight him. He more than likely with have a small amount of Magic Resist.

Warwick deals with touch for his attacks. Get ranged champions to deal with him. If he ults, make sure your support or another champion is nearby to help out in again depleting his HP.

Udyr is like Warwick and is weak to Marksmen. Especially those that slow like Ashe. He is on the other hand good at turning fights and is a good all-around champion. Just try and keep good distance.

Kuroi8611/4/2014, 1:13:35 AM1 votes

A counter for Garen is either a bigger lane bully (Hello Rene/Darius) or a champ with high levels of poke (Panth, GP or any marksman or mage).

Rammus' early game is meh, an early game jungle can wreck him hard. Not to mention magic damage makes him cry.

Warwick, exhaust or ignite, kite and poke him down. Outside of his ult he's pretty lack luster in damage unless he builds a good bit of it.

Udyr, burst him and watch him run away, when he comes back, just wash, rinse repeat.

EndlessSorcerer11/4/2014, 1:54:16 AM1 votes

Well, now we have a list of the last few champions you lost to.

Rawrful11/4/2014, 4:05:17 AM1 votes

Ahh, I can tell you play with a shitty frontline. What can a backline person do? Try to kite.

What do you need to do? Have better allies. All it takes is the support or one of your tanks/bruisers stepping in front of the Powerball Rammus, hitting the Garen or Udyr with CC, or CCing the Warwick off of you when he ults. Then you kite with your newly created distance and kill them. Unless you are behind. Damage dealers that are behind die to tanks and bruisers, because that is how they are designed to work.