To support the "support" role, we need to get rid of one item.

Samflash3··3 votes·742 views

Sightstone. In other words, get rid of the item and give everyone similarly accessible power of vision.

Suggestion:

Level 9 passive for warding totem (Higher calling ) - Returning back to base fills up yellow trinket. Same concept as trackers knife so the passive won't stack. Trinkets also slowly recharge although at the rate of 180 (or 150) seconds.

Ward Enchantment on boots. Examples could be:

  1. Second Eye - Restore rate of trinkets reduced by 40 percent- blue and yellow trinkets have a 90 second cool down recharge time, red loses the reduced cool down if you find a ward but is usable more. Intended for heavy sweeper reliant games (terms, LCS supports/junglers), Blue trinket long range vision games/ games where supports do NOT go back to base as often. Very useful in late game fights where you don't have the luxury to go back as much.

  2. Slotted pink boots - can store up to 2 pink wards (All pinks are now stored in boots ). At level 16, pink boots will spawn a pink ward charge once every 180 seconds. Great for games where pink wards are needed

  3. Distortion - Boot has an active that turns into a makeshift trinket. Has a cool down of 180 seconds.

Gives a secondary trinket for people who need a red and a ward, or red and blue, etc. (P.S: Junglers could get all 3 if they get trackers knife). Can't get sweepers.

These boot enchantment are free and can be got from level 9.

Also, note that you can play the vision game if you do decide to sell the boots so long as you frequently recall.

EDIT: Accidentally posted draft.

15 Comments

Marshbouy6 votes

And naturally, since the item is relatively cheap to get but doesn't provide much useful stats that your champion value, it ends up feeling subpar on the champions that wield it. Thus it is delegated to the lowest income class (Supports and occasional Junglers)

if sightstone is feeling subpar on you, you probably suck at warding TBH.

While this isn't exactly bad, a role shouldn't be defined by buying an 800g item. The support is currently known as a glorified ward bot because of this item.

It doesn't. They aren't. If all you are doing is being a ward bot then you suck at league, sorry.

i don't feel like reviewing your items but im guessing the are busted as fuck.

A Basic Island4 votes

lol'd

sheldonbunny6 votes

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lol'd

I always love when non support mains do threads like this. Always gives me a good chuckle.

Marshbouy4 votes

"I've only played a few games of support but" stop right there. You should no proceed further is how i feel about these.

Samflash31 votes

Glad it was funny. Should have put it in Memes and Games but it'll have been deleted by mods.

RIP.

Athenes Lulu3 votes

lol

Tentacle Advisor2 votes

I'm a support main and I will tell you that if I see the enemy support without a Sightstone (ever) within a game, I am going to laugh as my team grabs most, if not all of, the dragons AND my jungler ganks lanes with damn-near a 100% success rate due to the enemy team not having enough wards up, often enough.

Do people forget that Sightstone also gives you health? It may not be much, but it is still a Stat Boost. You mean to tell me that you dislike getting free HP from an item that also gives you VISION? Not to mention the 20% Cooldown Reduction on active items, that you get from the upgraded Ruby Sightstone. Seriously, what are you complaining about?

In other words, get rid of the item and give everyone accessible power of vision.

Everyone already HAS accessible power of vision: Their trinkets. Simply having those trinkets does not mean you have reliable vision, especially given that those trinkets don't simply refresh with you returning to base. Having the refresh on the Sightstone allows you to place wards where needed, and then replace them whenever you feel like it (once you've actually backed and recharged it, that is) without having to wait for a cooldown. I seriously don't see what your, or any other player's, problem is with Sightstone.

Samflash31 votes

Here's all I'm saying. I'm saying everyone should have similar power of Sightstone from level 9. The refresh is there, everyone has a mini Sightstone.

Reduced cool down for actives should honestly be a mastery imo but that's debatable.

Tentacle Advisor2 votes

What refresh do you get off the trinket? It has a cooldown, whereas the Sightstone does not. The only figurative 'cooldown' that the Sightstone has is if you sit in lane without refreshing it. Besides, supports with (and some junglers who buy) Sightstone constantly use it throughout the entire game. A lot of players neglect their trinkets as the game drags on.

Reduced cool down for actives should honestly be a mastery imo but that's debatable.

This is honestly a broken idea, if you think about it. I'd rather not have a Leona, Soraka, Janna (champs who generally buy nothing but active items) have a free 20% cooldown reduction from a mastery point.

Samflash31 votes

For the purpose of this thread, I suggested this:

Suggestion:

Level 9 passive for warding totem (Higher calling ) - Returning back to base fills up yellow trinket. Same concept as trackers knife so the passive won't stack. Trinkets also slowly recharge although at the rate of 180 (or 150) seconds.

But I give up. Let the thread die. A post is simply a post.

Blazeb0y2 votes

Everyone does have accessible power of vision, sighstone is key for vision and is usually bought by the support because is literally "supports" the team, its not about having equal vision power, its about optimizing the vision control.

Samflash31 votes

Alright. Here we go.

Thanks for clearing that up.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

MAN YOU DONT KNOW HOW GOOD SUPPORTS HAVE IT NOW. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT A DAMN WARD BOT SUPPORT IS. YOU HAVENT PLAYED THROUGH SEASON2 AND 3!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxSHL3Zii8k

Samflash31 votes

Oh I played through it. I'm saying everyone should have similar power of Sightstone from level 9.

Mysticman891 votes

The correct answer is to remove item 3105 so supports can have more situational build paths, instead of aegis essentially always being the right choice.

An active shield item (maybe not aoe) and banner via a different build path can still be a thing.

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