Its time to give him the buff he needs, no, deserves. +5 MS, and some actual starting armor.
I suggest +5 armor, we can see where he goes from there.
His playrate rivals that of pre-buff nunu, and don't even give me that "needs a rework shit" Its gonna be awhile before you get around to him, and fuck with him yet again.
Either that or we need some news of this fabled ap item update, and melee bot update.
Mordepool12 votesI don't tend to ask for buffs but if tgey don't want his playrate to drop to zero They might have to
GigglesO4 votesYou are still in the Morde chat room aren't you? Even last season there was alot of hope and "lets figure it out". The chat just seems dismal and "guess I find a new champ" lately. It really saddens me.
Mordepool5 votesYou are still in the Morde chat room aren't you? Even last season there was alot of hope and "lets figure it out". The chat just seems dismal and "guess I find a new champ" lately. It really saddens me.
Well nothing has been done to improve his gameplay. His lows are really low his Highs are just adequate. Seems like you have to put in 3 times the effort and lose at the flip of a coin. Also having a TERRIBLE late game means either snowball early or its statistically a 4v5
GigglesO3 votesHe has so many bugs for no reason... He has the slowest MS for no reason, the Lowest HP for no reason, Lowest armor for no reason.
But dat base ad... on an ap champ, that needs to level an ability to have the ad on it scale... Lets not forget that buying a juggernaut item "stereks gauge" removes damage from his dragon, because its base ad, and his ulti is bonus ad ratio.
Arakadia3 votesHe has the slowest MS for no reason, the Lowest HP for no reason, Lowest armor for no reason.
There are actual reasons to this.
First hes a juggernaut, so him being slow should be self explanatory.
But for his health and armor being tremendously low, its due to his passive being insanely powerful. He has to have these super weak defensive base stats or else he would be insane. His passive eats up so much of his power budget that this becomes necessary.
The bugs are a combination of Riot's neglect, him being scheduled for a rework at one point or another, and because he's a very old champion.
DragonShea1 votesHe has so many bugs for no reason... He has the slowest MS for no reason, the Lowest HP for no reason, Lowest armor for no reason.
But dat base ad... on an ap champ, that needs to level an ability to have the ad on it scale... Lets not forget that buying a juggernaut item "stereks gauge" removes damage from his dragon, because its base ad, and his ulti is bonus ad ratio.
Morde should be a champ with higher Base HP and armor. He should a champ that is slow by can still so-so trade from range with his W and E, but by mother of fuck should the real fun begin with him flattening you with his Q and Ulting your sorry ass so he can take your soul. I think he really suffers from same problem that mages have and that is a flat of relative itemization.
Jamaree9 votesRemove his hp cost, they are outdated and unnecessary at this point.
Lios Ashenblade2 votestrue, I mean there really isnt a need for it anymore, they only matter at low level
GigglesO2 votesIts "so he doesn't have infinite lane stay"...
Hp costs were created in a time when there was actual lane sustain via hp/second... 1 just doesn't cut it. Its really sad that they don't just do minor updates where they take champions that nolonger function as intended and just give them small buffs like hp/5 or armor or MR, or even just changing restrictions on their kit.
Lios Ashenblade3 votesWe have a lot of resourceless champions now too, so the only complaint would be that he has too much sustain, which was nerfed when they nuked spell vamp, and itemization for him would be an issue anyway, since he doesnt need mana, which half the ap items provide lol
GigglesO2 votesIts amazing. Its like you actually play the game. Not to be hostile towards the balance team, but sometimes it just feels like they don't know what a champion can actually do, so they just pick and choose what to be weak/strong.
In earlier season alot of morde players actually just built tank + htgb and rylis, and made it work... But with tanks being more and more base stat reliant and cc based he kinda just doesn't hit any mark.
Edit: one of the biggest things they could do would be a melee and ranged version of rylis, so he doesn't get gimped just because ranged users can abuse it.
Lios Ashenblade2 votesWe need a bruiser version of 
So less mobile bruisers can engage, since a lot of older fighters cant really get in and out of fights, I think giving us the ability to skirmish, is a good thing, I have been playing league a looong time honestly my first skin, was Spooky Gangplank lol on 08/07/2010, that is sort of around when I started, its hard to tell other than the skin collections tab.
I know balancing things can be hard, and it is made harder still by it being a programing thing, and they have to keep champions feeling different enough that it is fun and challenging. But honestly, the easiest fix, is itemization, and I think they are going in the right direction with runes reforged, I just want it expanded, there are steps being taken, and I can see what they are aiming at, but it does hurt when a champion you love, is basically useless.
Riot has come a long way as a company, and they really have worked to improve the game, however they have a surplus of entirely outdated champions, that need vgu and or full blown rebuilds. This isn't indicative of poor design, but rather of a game that has been around for like 10 years
Arakadia3 votesSmall buffs could work but Riot doesn't want Mordekaiser to be strong.
And for good reasons. A meta Mordekaiser would be hellish.
GigglesO2 votesBecause we are oh so happy with Vayne, Zoe, Twitch, kog, and all of these other ranged champs that don’t even get close to you to kill you being meta.
Atleast morde has a clear weakness. He is easily kiteable. CC destroys him, he is easily gankable to shut down. Champs like Fiora can negate his third Q. You can straight up just walk away from a fight with him, and then reinitiate on him. He has actual cool downs unlike a lot of the newer champs.
Those buffs would not make him meta, it would only ease some suffering right now, in his current underperforming state.
Lord Phazanor 3 votesDon't worry, in 3 or 4 years, when everybody has forgotten him, they'll replace "rework" him: he'll become 3 lesbians, a straight man and a cat in a tincan that transformed into an armor but they were all trapped. He'll also be a ranged support.
ObscureParticle2 votesHe doesn’t need a rework, just a visual update and maybe the +5 ms and a little more health or armor
Lord Phazanor 4 votesHe doesn’t need a rework, just a visual update and maybe the +5 ms and a little more health or armor
He actually needs a dework. Bring him back to how he was 3 years ago and start from there. Would be better :'(
Arakadia3 votesSee you can't buff Mordekaiser much without breaking him. He does need a rework as his current iteration is super poor design.
Malicious Metal2 votesHe needs a rework, no mere buff can fix the mess that is Mordekaiser's current kit.
Raid Boss Morde2 votesHopefully every Morde main just drops him til they get around to fixing him. Can a champion ever hit a 0% playrate? Probably not. Can a champion have an even lower playrate than Morde? Yeah, but there's only 1, and it's Volibear, someone who is actually getting attention and buffs.
Sp33d Zer02 voteshttp://na.op.gg/champion/mordekaiser/statistics/top
His win rate has been pretty stagnate for the past 5 patches at the very least. Unless you meant his PLAY RATE has gone done with each patch.
xelaker2 votesIts time to give him the buff he needs, no, deserves. +5 MS, and some actual starting armor.
I suggest +5 armor, we can see where he goes from there.
His playrate rivals that of pre-buff nunu, and don't even give me that "needs a rework shit" Its gonna be awhile before you get around to him, and fuck with him yet again.
Either that or we need some news of this fabled ap item update, and melee bot update.
problem with morde is that too much goes a long way with him.
Lios Ashenblade1 votesmelee bot can work reasonably well, even with the new versions of relic shield, I have been doing it with a friend of mine, your first 2 or 3 levels are rough, but then assuming you pick the right champs, you can just dive them, over, and over, and over
GigglesO1 votesIts actually his highest winrate lane. It just isn't as feasble to do it as it was even last season. They upped early damage yet again, making it even harder to just walk up and cs, which was one of mordes biggest strengths. It was always one of mordes strengths.
If the enemy doesn't poke you it isn't so bad, but everyone is hyper ready to abuse the fuck out of you for walking up to minions.
Lios Ashenblade1 votesadmittedly we ususally do it with 
but kench works too, or mao, you just NEED that hard initiate threat, to keep em scared
GigglesO1 votesI personally like alistar. Free hp in lane phase. Morde just isn't even as big of a threat as he was last season. He is suited best for long drawn out fights, and we are in the league of one shot the enemy team.
Lios Ashenblade1 votesThats true, if he builds tanky enough to survive the fight, he has no damage, if he has damage, he gets one shot
Selegun1 votesHypothetically, what would your items and runes look like for a tanky build then?
GigglesO2 votes
Got me to diamond with 60% winrate last season. This season I'm struggling to even get a 50% winrate.
Selegun1 votesA good looking build for sure. How do you feel it is failing your overall strategy during the game?
GigglesO1 votesWell last season I could get next to the enemy to touch them... now I don't even get close to hitting them unless flash is up. I'm just not tanky enough without my 43 armor and 46 MR from runes... I lost alot of tankiness with the rune update.
Selegun1 votesThe new runes do tend to facilitate more damage than durability right now. Are you opposed to using that damage to allow yourself more defense in your new builds?
GigglesO1 votesIts not about being opposed to the extra damage... Its just that none of the keystones really fit.
Aery/comet doesn't hit the spot for enough damage. Nothing in the adc tree really works. The domination tree is cool, but electrocute is meh, dark harvest, ok? Predator is pretty cool, but it only allows me to get that first hit off. I have to bonk them 3 times to kill them, which means that its still a game of getting peeled off/cc'd/ mobility away after the first hit.
Inspiration tree is kinda iffy. Sure glacial augment, but then you have to touch them, which is already the large issue he has already. Changing out summoners from ignite/exaust to tp or smite is minimally helpful, and lol on klepto...
So that leaves the tank tree, you have garbo grasp that doesn't do much because mordes low base hp, and the 5 hp doesn't add up enough to be meaningful, You have the one you can't even use, and then there is guardian, which only works if you are ontop of your ally... So yea...
Also, unlike a true rune system, you can't mix and match either, so really this is just a mastery system anyways. XD
I'd love to do a page that doesn't even have a keystone. Get Triump, overheal, ravenous hunter, conditioning, revitalize, and celestial body.
Selegun1 votesEvery rune has its place so in time I'm sure some Keystones will start popping up in popularity. As for lesser runes I've personally enjoyed using Transcendence and Gathering Storm. With those I'm allowed to build far more defensive and trust that my damage will be where it needs to be later on in the game.
GigglesO1 votesThat build doesn’t have a damage issue though. One of the big issues with swapping defense runes for offensive runes is that defense items are straight up less slot efficient, and less gold efficient. You’re telling me that those two runes just magically let me drop trinity forces slot efficiency?
Selegun1 votesPerhaps. Its something I've been fiddling with in my spare time so you will have to find the sweet spot yourself. What we have to remember is that even damage items are inefficient on Morde due to his low and inconsistent scalings.
Lios Ashenblade1 voteslol I remember before spellvamp went away he was probably part of why they gutted it
Lios Ashenblade2 votesI think morde needs to be mid or bot really, so we get the most out of those drakes, I would probably only deviate slightly based on their team comp, I think the trinity, thorn, and boots are your pivot points, 
being good alternatives, for runes I dunno, I think he can benefit from a lot of different keystones, phase rush, press the attack, comet, its all how you plan to play him, comet and aery are going to be nice in lane, but lame after, phase rush can help with how damn slow he is
Selegun1 votesI thought I was the only weirdo that fiddled with Rageblade, lol. Nice to know I'm not the only one.
Keystones are interchangeable in my opinion. The only required runes I've found for my play style would be Transcendence and Gathering Storm. With CDR on alot of the defensive options of items I like to build its silly not to utilize all that leftover power.
Lios Ashenblade1 votesRageblade has a lot of potential for a lot of different champions tbh, people like teemo and twitch can even benefit, twitch to a lesser degree obviously lol
Selegun1 votesIt's a nice boost in damage during a fight for sure. Might have to try it again since I quit using it at the tail end of last season.
Lios Ashenblade1 votesit may not fit with burst meta, but it does let you ramp up nicely
Selegun1 votesThis is true. In the end if I can survive long enough in the fight to survive the burst then its worth considering.
Micbran1 votesat this point he just feels so shit to play he needs a rework of his mechanical theme (the whole no cc thing but me smash you is terrible to both play and play against). I’ve moved onto to something more meta and am having more fun, maybe I just like winning, but I feel soooo much better when I land e w on Yorick and smash my laner.
GigglesO1 votesBut is that really because you cc'd him, or is it just because you didn't die while absolutely decimating the enemy? Because honestly it kinda feels like shit to play against yorik the same way old morde felt bad to play against.
leakinb1 votesJust give up. Riot does NOT care this champ*[zombie-brand-mindblown]* I've already made much post about Morde current state
