I keep seeing Sona nerfs but I never see her played
Any reason for this? She's in like 5% in all the games I play in ranked and she's mediocre at best. Why am I always seeing nerfs for her? Is she stomping low elo or something?
107 Comments
People played Sona with Kalista and Riot didn't realize that the W proc was where all the dmg was coming from and not Sona Q.
they want her to keep from ulting their main man, Lee Sin, from doing 'big plays'
She's only getting nerfed because she cant say anything aganst it.
The pros constantly say Sona is an inferior Nami.
I guess supports aren't supposed to impact fights outside of ults :P
cough thresh.
Oh yeah, nvm you just hate Sona lol.
Thanks Riot.
No, just riot making sure that she won't contest #lcsbigplays.
Sona isn't a very flashy or complex champion. Therefore, following Riots "Muh eSports" mentality in regards to balancing, she deserves to be nerfed while supports like Thresh deserve to be strong.
See enemy pick Sona? Pick a bursty bottom lane and enjoy the free kills cause that champ is made of paper. Her range isn't that long either, its about average. Unless you picked some kind of melee crap into bottom lane its easy to harass her right back, or outright kill her.
Not at all. Sona needs some freaking justice. I never see anyone ever complain about Sona. Heck I don't even play her, but she never feels unhealthy to play against either. She has very clear weaknesess, and few strengths. And to finally mention, misplaying on her is VERY unforgiving as opposed to playing her correctly makes her hardly considerable. I am not saying strong Sona players don't exist, but holy hell Sona is definitely NOT an OP champion. Riot needs to stop nerfing the poor girl.
Sona is the small child that Riot loves to bully. The only reason they let her continue existing is so they can laugh at her every time they stab her with a pen, dump tacks into her shoe locker or carve profanities into her desk. It makes them feel better at being unqualified for their jobs when they have a F-class champ they can keep tormenting.
Morellos silver Rammus got beat by Sona.
I main sona and honestly? This nerf isn't really necessary, but I also don't see why she's a target in the first place. She's not exactly an easy support, contrary to popular belief. I hardly see her get picked... I see more blitz, thresh, and weird support picks more than her. This really hurts her in mid too.
This nerf is going to make her just flat out useless.
Bump for a symphony of justice.
She hovers around a 10% pick rate in many leagues, and goes from a +50% win rate to spiking for a 70% win rate.
The 70% spikes are Challenger level by the way.
While admittedly 10% isn't the best, it's still relatively solid when you consider how big the champion pool is. Sona is strong, I guess it's just (in)convenient luck that you don't see her often.
The issue with sona is that she's very safe and well-rounded. Her harass is pretty intense given that she also has a very strong heal. Someone like soraka, on the other hand, has a very intense heal but her harass is pretty laughable. Sona Q + empowered auto hits much harder than anything raka can dish out, and this is where the problem lies.
A bit of an identity crisis within Riot's mentality imo. Supports usually can do one thing real well; utility (blitz, thresh, leona), heal (soraka, sona), or damage (annie, karma, pantheon). Some supports have more than one of these aspects in their kit, like alistar, nami, and sona. Usually, these multi-faceted characters have a major weakness. Alistar's heals are incredibly weak, for example, and his mana costs are through the roof. Sona has low mana costs, a potent heal, a potent (and easy to land) harass, and a utility ult. There's alot going on for her, even if shes not 90% pick/ban tier. Either her harass or her heal should be toned down a tad so that she feels more comparable to the other supports.
Sona is my main right now, if those nerfs on the pbe go through im not going to anymore.
Outside of ARAM she's generally unpopular. While she was my support of choice for a while, between the rework and potential upcoming changes I just don't see reason to pick her considering the potential matchups bot lane.
But unless folks in high elo are have found her to have some hidden power and are using her extensively, I don't see why she'd be worthy of a nerf bat beating versus someone like fizz or zed.
bump
Bump
I used to main sona in mid plat. I hardly even pick her anymore because i feel like every time shes nerfed more and more supports are better options than her. Even today would you rather have a sona over a soraka? or a sona over a thresh janna, or braum? It makes me sad that every support does something better than her. braum has better cc, soraka has better healing, and janna peels harder.
And before someone talks about poke, she out pokes other supports until lvl 6 if shes lucky, a good thresh or braum will have no problem with her in lane
bump
Bump
Death Sentence RANGE: 1100 instant death/burn flash
Rocket Grab RANGE: 925 instant death/burn flash
Dark Binding RANGE: 1175 instant death/burn flash
Grasping Roots RANGE: 1100 instant death/burn flash
Aqua Prison RANGE: 875 instant death/burn flash
Zenith Blade RANGE: 875 instant death/burn flash
Solar Flare RANGE: 1200 instant death/burn flash
Sona AA RANGE: 550
Sona: Q RANGE: 700
so basically if sona wants to poke with aa she faces the possibility of having to burn flash/die every single time she decides to poke with aa and the only semi safe poke is her q which does barely any damage now after repeated nerfs
oh and going to leave this part of namis kit here its called "sona will never be able to outpoke me as long as im higher than b5 elo" but for some reason its showing up as ebb and flow on my client
Ebb and Flow RANGE: 725 COST: 70 / 85 / 100 / 115 / 130 mana COOLDOWN: 10
Active: Nami unleashes a stream of water that bounces between allied and enemy champions. This ability can only bounce to each target once and hits up to 3 targets. The damage and heal are modified by -15% (+ 7.5% per 100 AP) with each bounce.
Heal: 65 / 95 / 125 / 155 / 185 (+ 30% AP) (2x sonas healing)
Magic Damage: 70 / 110 / 150 / 190 / 230 (+ 50% AP) (2x sonas damage)
so lets nerf the champion that heals for way less and pokes for way less than namis ebb and flow at a shorter range of 700
dat logic
Bump?
Bump.
bump
She is pretty strong actually.
Aoe cc ult's are kinda common but hers is one of the best.
her heals and shields are really good
Basically her kit is really loaded, i wouldnt say too loaded but its full.
Not to mention.... she counters Janna, Morgana, and Braum.
Lich bane sona hurts a LOT for a support, but she shouldn't be getting nerfs. Maybe she is just really OP in the competitive scene?
Have you tried building a Lich Bane?