How can you even call this game competitive?

Traunt·Apr 4, 2017·56 votes·3,279 views

I cannot even remember the last time I've had a game where the score is even, where the teams are evenly balanced, no one is bitching, no one is spamming missing pings/afking, none of it. I cannot remember the last time I said "wow, the enemy team really deserved that win". Honestly, fucking pathetic. You call this shit competitive? Roblox is more competitive than this shit. The teams are always INCREDIBLY unbalanced, I get diamonds on one team, and silver's on another, with one team having a 70% win rate to win compared to the 30%. How many active users play this game? Somewhere in the MILLIONS? Why is that even an issue? Why is it so hard to pair Silver's with Silver's? Get your game together RIOT, this shit is just miserable.

28 Comments

SlaktarTaskenApr 5, 201724 votes

It's pretty damn clear to me that there is nothing competitive about this game outside of the pro scene (where the game is played as intended) and in a sense one could claim that even that isn't very competitive compared to true competitive sports.

It's ranking system is a complete joke and far closer related to the ranking system of chess (a 1v1 game/sport) than it is to actuall team sports which are completely based on league standings and not some invisible elo wannabe mumbo jumbo (MMR).

Have you ever seen a baseball game where pro's, big leaguers and juniors mix in a "competitive" match? Me neither and it won't happen because it would be a complete clown fiesta, yet league has a ranking/matchmaking system that does exacly that and Riot has the gauls to call "competitive".

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In a respectable sport like soccer or baseball lower league players has to best the best in their leagues for chance to take spots of the worst performing in the league above and progress from there, as it should be, fair, just and direct. No BS, no mumbo-jumbo.

I LoL, lower league and higher league players can come into your ranked matches and completely muck them up. Fanbois will say that this happens to everyone and is thus fair. It's even fair if it happens more to some than others because "chance" or the nicer word they use for it: "variance".

They have no evidene ofc because Riot keeps all stastics, again, does any other respectable sport hide statistics? The whole idea of hiding any statistics is completely laughable. But as Riot/Tencent are THE monopoly of the game, ofc, profit also becomes a factor.

Have you ever heard about any other respected sport where chance is a factor?

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Such competitive. [zombie-brand-clap]

Lol. Just LoL. The hint is in the name of the game. E-sports will never be puplicly accepted as real sports, not with these kind of matchmaking/balancing/ranking systems at least.

Nerds, fanbois and right-click warriors can say what they want, they can't change that.

/End rant

RavenMagusApr 5, 20174 votes

League isn't the same as an actual sport. It's played by millions of people worldwide, and most of those are single people.

You're basically talking about leagues where it's only teams vs teams. If things were the way you said, then the only ranked queue type would be 5v5 premade teams only. And we actually had that queue for a bit - but the majority of the people playing league are people that don't have 4 others they can always play with. In fact, it was such an underused queue that it's been replaced by Flex 5v5, a queue where you can join with any sort of fragmented premade team, not just a full 5.

You could, of course, just say that there shouldn't be any ranked queues at all then. But that would make quite a lot of people upset - there's a whole lot of people that prefer the competitiveness and only want to play ranked.

Besides, the stuff that actually matters - the esports pro scene - is just that sort of 5v5 teams only. What does it honestly really matter if the rest of everything else isn't that way? It's easier for everyone everywhere to play the game.

And it's not like rankings in League are completely random either. There's a reason it takes so many games to climb, even if your MMR is good: the law of averages counters any sort of randomness that might be in a game due to matchmaking. If you're really bad, you're not going to get carried in every single game. It might happen in two or three or five games, but five games isn't going to get you to Diamond. You'll wind up where you should be eventually.

RichBeanApr 5, 20171 votes

Nice opinion. You can't win an argument by just saying anyone who has different beliefs on the matter is wrong. Just destroys everything you wrote up to that point.

RichBeanApr 5, 20175 votes

Nice opinion. You can't win an argument by just saying anyone who has different beliefs on the matter is wrong. Just destroys everything you wrote up to that point. (looked you up, you only play Aram and bots, don't see how you can have an opinion on competitive)

SlaktarTaskenApr 5, 20172 votes

And I said that when/where?

Is that so? Pretty odd because I have 3 championship Maoki skins on 3 different acc's including this one.

I gave up on ranked before S7 for my own reasons, but the bagde and stats are still there so do look again, might I suggest you don't tunnelvision on match history this time around?

Also, if there's something in my text you oppose, why not post an actual argument instead of nothing?

DethflashApr 4, 201714 votes

I saw a gold player stuck in a ranked game of challengers. Yeah you would think with 100 million people playing league at least once a month, riot could make matches even, but nope. You get crap like 5 silvers vs 1 silver and 4 diamonds.

TrauntApr 4, 20174 votes

Like, I thought flex queue was the only problem, but it's in solo queue as well. God fucking bless.

YoungFarmerApr 5, 20171 votes

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I saw a gold player stuck in a ranked game of challengers. Yeah you would think with 100 million people playing league at least once a month, riot could make matches even, but nope. You get crap like 5 silvers vs 1 silver and 4 diamonds.

Pics or it didn't happen bud, I have never once ever, ever, ever, ever played against a challenger player. Ever.

RisenDarkKnightApr 5, 20171 votes

Just watch a challenger player's stream. At least once every couple weeks there will be a player with a gold border in one of their games.

YoungFarmerApr 5, 20172 votes

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Just watch a challenger player's stream. At least once every couple weeks there will be a player with a gold border in one of their games.

That doesn't mean they are gold players lol.

Papa AndreiApr 5, 20175 votes

Honestly, Gold is wonderful ELO. People know just enough to actually be decent at the game, but are still bad enough they can't just roflstomp. Most games are even (Had a game little while ago, went 17 kills ahead of the enemy team, we threw hard, it got even, and 30 minutes later we won)

DeepthroatusApr 5, 20173 votes

Lol, no. Gold is wonderful elo, that I want to climb back (I dont play often) to plat, but when I come home relaxed and want to play some balanced game I must literaly tryhard, to make this game even and carry teammates even into lategame, when everyone is full build. I dont understand, why should I play with 1 silver and 1 plat player, which both of them are rly trash.

hhaavviikkApr 5, 20173 votes

oh please if hearthstone can be competitive then LoL most certainly can be as well

QuadleApr 5, 20173 votes

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=hickfromdasticks

GoobersonApr 5, 20172 votes

this made my eyes bleed... he blames the system while being obviously a big part of the problem, and that all without noticing how bad he is at the game :( so much Dunning-Kruger. And btw, how can he be S1 with that Winrate and played games the season so far (and playing his first ranked season at all)? It took me so long to get back where I currently am it tilts me seeing this.

2Charmnot2CharmApr 5, 20171 votes

Must have spammed Zed when lethality was broken af, easy to abuse zed in silver- low gold elo.

He still has average 8 deaths on zed though lmao.

PePsiLemoNNApr 5, 20172 votes

Most of my ranked games are pretty balanced.

Normals are usually stomps tho

2Charmnot2CharmApr 5, 20172 votes

How about you improve your skills before talking shit about any competitive game you play.

Even in the games you win you have more than 5 deaths almost everytime and you're in silver fucking elo.

You are also spamming ranked games so don't even come here with "getting matched vs diamonds" bullshit.

There is enough low elo NA players (bronze-golds) to make sure this never happens in ranked solo queue.

KovenApr 13, 20171 votes

Holy shit talk about being salty. Bad day buddy?

SegiusApr 5, 20172 votes

Pretty sure this is just a rage post for people who cant climb, "roblox is more competitive" honestly just go play that game then, it probably suits you better anyways

robotgameApr 6, 20172 votes

about every ~5th or so game there is a smurf or a clearly higher skill player which just shits on the game for the start as they get fed isntantly and snowball like there is no tommorrow, im S4 so banning lee isent as nessecary as most cant play him efficiently as in higher elo but JESUS FUCK i felt the wrath of diamond lee smurf who shat on every lane he was fucking immortal and it was very obious he smurfed he was just extreamly good, i wasent even mad i was quite baffled but i lost and i feel like it was game over from min 1 because muh silver which is pretty much diamonds smurfs and actual silver players.

the more i play the more i want to quit and return to other games. But i dont want to leave my friend solo queing.

MeccazApr 6, 20172 votes

maybe you should play more than 34 ranked games and not assume you will be diamond

LOSINGISMYPRIDEApr 4, 20171 votes

Well the response is flex queue who actually outter past the rule . You can have ppl of your lvl but mixed with diamond or above for the reason the dont take in count the party member but only the party leader .

llIllIllIllIllApr 5, 20171 votes

The game is balanced around LCS and casual normal/aram players - the soloq nonpro players get whatevers left

Poll: Do you run Flash on D or F?

JoeMGApr 5, 20171 votes

A bit of a different perspective, but I was brought up in the competitive Halo scene. Halo is still a team game with objectives and map control being key, but the difference is (and this is why there was an outrage when they introduced customizable loadouts) that all the players start on equal ground - same weapons and same abilities. Since everyone was essentially the same character the competitive skill came from simply being better. There was no stat checking and no counter picking, just skill. That's why, despite my acknowledgement that League takes skill in it's own right, it really isn't a competitive game.