Is Azir in a good place right now?

Velasan··1 votes·1,701 views

I was maining Azir last season. I've only played about ten games with him since his last nerf. He seems so much worse now because the whole point is to do damage at a distance. Now his damage is low enough that I've seen multiple people ignore his soldiers all together.

In one game I had a lee sin with equal number of items stand in the middle of two soldiers, stand there, use his taunt and then walk away. By this point I already had a rod of ages, the nashors, and a void staff with my boots and he wasn't even building MR.

Against AP users they just avoid the soldiers now and I get blown up. In another game I was against an Ori who could chunk Azir for like a 1/4 of his life points with each ball, but my soldiers just couldn't kill her. If I chased she used her ult or back tracked and used her empowered attacks, and if I stayed at distance she just walked around my soldiers.

Is this the way it was intended to be, is Azir any good now? Azir is a somewhat squishy mage, even when building him off tank (like with rod of ages/rylai's/liandry's etc). At this point it seems it is required to build a rod of ages or similar item just to not die in fights that are now extended because of the damage nerf (so if the fight against an opponent was going to last 7 seconds it now lasts 10 for example, giving them two extra shots to kill you in response). Building those items however just further detracts from the damage you already don't have.

I mean, what I'm getting at here is Azir already has to use his soldiers to attack which is a draw back. You have to set them up, move them around, try to get them into position. Without the damage you have all that extra work, but none of the upside. Why not just play an ADC at that point and do the same if not better damage?

TL;DR I don't know how to play Azir anymore and wondering if there has been any insights into his new play style.

9 Comments

Nathaniell11 votes

He is played at LCS... so probably wont be so bad as you are saying so... Mby u build him somwhat wrong, because from my experiance, his mid-late game dmg is just really high

Truly Prideful1 votes

I'd say he's really good right now. Unless you're really behind his midgame damage is just crazy good. Not even going to mention lategame, he just gets better with each item.

I usually run item 3165 item 3135 item 3157 item 3089 item 3116 item 3020 with scaling CDR blues and the 5% in the offensive tree to hit 40% CDR.

Velasan1 votes

Ty everybody. So basically morello's is the new thing, and it sounds like attack speed doesn't do anything on him anymore.

So big AP all the way. I'll try that in my next game.

purire1 votes

He is good trust me banned in Korean solo q it seems I have asked a Korean Master he play he said and I quote "azir very op"

InvalidGuest1 votes

When was azir nerfed?

Also NEVER build Nashors or Rod of Ages.

EVER!

You always want to build Morellonomicon, then maybe athenes and then damages. You want Deathcap, Zhonyas, voidstaff, etc.

championmaggot1 votes

hes been nerfered and is utterly useless at every stage of the game.

Fizz is not Fish1 votes

I can only find buff---bugs are fixed. It seems the only nerf is W's ratio was reduced to 0.6 from 0.7.

championmaggot1 votes

His q has been lowerd from (xxx)+70% to (xxx)+50% his base ap has been lowered. The exact same build ive been using on azir for a while now has 45 less ap at lvl 18 then it used to pre nerf. Mana requiments are nmuch higher now too. Runs out completely even during end game, its a constant struggle to keep ahead of the mana consumption. Whicvh makes it really hard to burst which is what you need to do wiuth azir to be an effective force. Basically every aspect of azir that made him really good has now been nerfed to make him really bad. Lowering his base ap increasing his mana consumption and negating the effectiveness of attack speed bonus from the passive is what this nerf is all about and it has utterly ruined azirs gameplay. It really seems to me that riot doesnt want hard to use powerfull champs that need skill to use in their game becuase it will upsetting all the yi jarvans and blitzcranks......Im telling you this nerf is utter garbage.

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