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Irelia & trinity force synergy = busted... Again?

GOL Undecayed··5 votes·1,965 views

Mainly to be honest I don't really have problems with Irelia being a Fiora top laner, however I feel for those who don't have a parry or some counterplay to her e because that thing is on an extremely low cooldown, so much that it can turn fights in her favour extremely quickly. I did some research and she has the highest win rate for any top laner currently, along with the highest pick rate and yes just because these stats show how good of a champion she is does not necessarily mean a nerf is in order, however in this case it is.

I'm sorry but I don't really understand how a top laner apart from Garen/Renekton would be able to beat her. She can build semi-tank, semi-damage but the damage portion is devastating. Her Q Ad ratio is above the 100% mark and pair that with true damage and a stun based based off an opponents health, it dominates the opposition. You can build item 3111 or item 3139 to try to counter this, but they are expensive items that no one really has access too so early on in the game and you sacrifice situational items for the rest of the team. I have looked online for ways to counter her but there aren't any to be honest apart from choosing champions that outright beat her in lane, the only thing that stops her is a high number of ganks and roaming, both of which are very risky and could go terribly wrong. With maximum Cdr (which is something quite easy for her to attain now, given the changes to trinity force), her 'E' stands at a cooldown of 4.8 seconds, it also has a scaling disable duration from 1 second at lvl 1. to 2 seconds at lvl 5. That is insane! with Trinity force's recent buff, Irelia has gained this huge indirect buff allowing for greater attack speed with the item, sheen activation on her q dealing 100% added damage (of base damage), more auto attacks for true damage on her 'W' and if things go pear shaped an 'E' activation to turn most, if not any, 1v1 around.

Trinity force isn't the problem, in fact I think that the recent changes are amazing and I hope they don't get tweaked or reverted, it is just the synergy Irelia has with the item that just gives her an insane power spike mid game (where she shines). Most likely and I hope there will be nerfs to Irelia but not crippling ones because she could easily be a healthy champion that individuals are still willing to play, maybe an increase on cooldown on her 'E' because as I would imagine, fighting her becomes quite annoying and gimmicky, its a choice of 'do I fight her with lower health and risk it to avoid the stun on the 'E'' or do the opposite and risk getting bursted down as a result of taking the stun. I dunno I just hope something balances out in the future. Hope you lot see where I'm coming from.

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JamesTheMage172 votes

I recently got irelia and I agree... TF on her is pretty damn op. It's like a 1.2 AD ratio + bonus ad from TF + bonus passive damage from TF makes if stack up to about 500 vs minions, 200-400 to champs depending on how tanky they are (midgame). I'm not suggesting a rework, but I'm suggesting that maybe u change the AD ratio a bit, or make it not do over 1.00 at least.

VivaLaKitten2 votes

They kinda ruined trinity force Trinity force was the go to Bruiser item, now it's just . . .idk what is it? Like tanky fast attackers? Bruisers built it for critical strike chance and all around perks now its just . . . . uh idk . _ .

GOL Undecayed2 votes

Yeah I guess it's in a weird position but possibly to compliment other items is where it is more powerful now, I dunno.

VivaLaKitten1 votes

I understood it as the all around item, now it's . . .just idk . . . ;-;

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

tldr

GOL Undecayed1 votes

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Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

Why just single out Irelia? What about how it works with Jax Shyvana XinZhao Akali Udyr

GOL Undecayed1 votes

I recently just played a game with Irelia and although I won it was just annoying dealing with her. Writing this I thought about Jax and more but I wanted to focus mainly on Irelia.

SonaTitsAndAss2 votes

no one fucking uses it on shyvana and if they do its because they are noobs. item 1419 item 3153 thats all the damage items she needs

GOL Undecayed1 votes

Lol I was going to say I've never seen TF on Shyvana, I just see her build bruiser and she tears up a lot of champs, compared to the states of other champions I would say she's healthy regardless compared to one of the more recent patches before her nerf, while devourer was still an Item.

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

I use Shyvana in top lane when the enemy is Garen in draft matches. She makes quick work of him. I used to run item 3153 item 3124 , but after BotRK active wears off, it's impossible to stay glued to Garen and she doesn't really have a use for item 3071 .

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

why the fuck are you playing shyvana top when Irelia and Jax exist?

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

Shyvana's max health % damage is better against tanks. Irelia takes long to hill health tanks item 3143 item 3065 item 3047 item 3083 now that Grasp of Undying exist. They just run away forever and use the keystone when it's ready to make it to safety. I've never had a problem with Jax as long as I have MR, item 3111 item 3065 is usually more than enough, then I go with armor the rest of the way. If you survive his stun and have any CC at all, it's enough to kill him.

spombjop1 votes

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Why just single out Irelia? What about how it works with Jax Shyvana XinZhao Akali Udyr

Akali is trash

weeaboomer1 votes

Sources? And jax is more a bitch than she is while scaling better with his cancerous ball of stats. Also, susan's low cd 40% cdr slow.

JamesTheMage171 votes

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Sources? And jax is more a bitch than she is while scaling better with his cancerous ball of stats. Also, susan's low cd 40% cdr slow.

Nasus and Jax, I agree, are quite nuisances in lane. Compared to irelia, those two are teemos.

GOL Undecayed1 votes

I'm yet to face a Jax in this patch or a Nasus, but I'm sure they're a bitch to play against, I especially hate Nasus. -.-

VivaLaKitten1 votes

But Nasus is my best friend ;-;

GOL Undecayed1 votes

Some people just wanna see the world burn ༼ つ ͠° ͟ ͟ʖ ͡° ༽つ

FrozenFrostFyre1 votes

BETTER NERF IRELIA

JamesTheMage171 votes

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BETTER NERF IRELIA

Compared to other fighter/assassins, she's quite balanced.

GOL Undecayed1 votes

Lol bring it back xD

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