Am i the only one who think Qiyana is probably the fairest assassin on this game ?

StormBladeMaster··2 votes·1,190 views

Hello everyone, let's talk about Qiyana.

I think, as an adc main and support main, that she is the fairest assassin to play vs. I never complained about her and even find her a little bit weak compared to others assassins.

Compared to Akali Zed, she can't reach you from very long distances. Her E and W give her mobility but not too much. Just as needed and it's don't prevent me from playing adc.

She don't have abilities like Akali shroud or Zed ulti or Fizz E who can make untargetable except her Q with grass element and it's short range so it's not even a big deal.

She don't scale very well. I think she shines on mid game but fall hard on lategame because her dmg is not enough and because she is very ulti reliant and elements reliant.

Let's me explain : Qiyana excels when she can play around the river. Because around the river, you have the water, the grass and the stone element. Also around the river, you have large walls which she can ulti properly.

But once you reach enemy base or your base, the elements dissapears with the walls. In your base, you don't have a bush or a water pool who can allow you to swap elements which make her power tumble down.

Qiyana dmg is a lot based on her passive. If you can't reset her elements, then you lose a big part of her damage. Considering her ratios aren't that high.

But also, you lost the possiblity of using your ulti. In the jungle, you can easily put your ulti but when you are on the enemy base or your base, the walls are small and using ulti properly is very complicated.

Most of the time, the walls on the base are towers (which are small), inbinitors (which are small as tower) and Nexus. It's become harder to place her ultimate which is very important because most of her damage come from this ultimate.

That why she is fair, if you want to use your ultimate properly, you need to trap the enemy team in the jungle where walls are bigger and easier to hit. Not an easy thing to do in Solo Q because you don't know your mates, you don't communicate with them and prepare an ambush is harder.

Also, she can't escape when she go in or temporize. Qiyana must react fast and precisely otherwise she is a dead assassin.

Why am i talking about Qiyana ?

I play her in URF and even if it's not realistic because the CD are reduced by a lot, these situations often happends.

I get feed with her from lvl 3 and when mid game is finished (the part where you play around the river), i lose a lot of power, even tought i'm feed. I can't carry even with a 20 kills lead because as long i can't ulti or swap my elements, i lose a big part of my power. It's easy for me to place and ulti when the enemies are around the drake but when they are on their base or on my base, it's harder.

And the situation is the same in normals games. Qiyana is good if she is played around the river. Otherwise, when you come on the lanes or the enemy base, you start losing a lot of power because you have 2 spells that you can't use properly.

The fact that her banrate isn't high, prove that she is not unhealthy and fair. And i never complained about laning or playing vs a Qiyana.

8 Comments

Wukong Airlines4 votes

Lmao

StormBladeMaster2 votes

Lmao, could you developp please ? I'm trying to discuss seriously on a topic and you are like "lmao".

If you don't agree with me, fine but explain why then.

Jesi Oni3 votes

She have 'skillshots' that are impossible to dodge without toxic mobility in your kit. I would not call it fair at all.

StormBladeMaster1 votes

Her EQ combo is impossible to dodge yes but it's don't make a big dmg and she has to approach. If you are Xerath, you can be safe from her, she won't reach you.

But which champs don't have mobility in their kit nowadays ? Especially on mid lane...

Ahri Akali Diana Zed Talon Ekko Kassadin (ok at lvl 6) Lissandra Katarina Neeko Ryze (run fast) Yasuo Fizz Zoe (bubble + ulti can prevent Qiyana from approaching).

And there also some pick with "no mobility or not so much but who can carry vs her".

Annie (Qiyana don't have escape, Annie can burst her before she can) Diana (tanky, Qiyana won't burst her), Azir ( you can play safe) Brand (if you make a good predict with your E Q combo, she is dead, ofc it's not easy and Brand would be risky matchup but you can still do some things Malzahar (without QSS, she won't do anything to Malz if you play safe, she will need to use her spells to push, mean she will lose her power in pushing her wave while you will only poke her and stay far from her). Lux : You can play safe even if this matchup is not easy for Lux. Sylas : I don't know how this MU would end up but i think it's 50/50 Velkoz : Can stay safe too, you don't need to kill Qiyana to win the lane but most people don't understand this. Syndra : You need to aim your EQ combo properly. When Qiyana dash, she will pass throught you so you must land your skillshoot behind you to stun her. It's just a reflex. Swain : Swain is too tanky, after some HP item, he will be unkillable. Qiyana can't 1vs1 Swain unless he is stupid. Xerath : Your range should protect you from her. Qiyana isn't Zed dude. Anivia : I don't think a good Anivia would suffer from Qiyana. Vladimir : Like Swain, he is tanky and he can regen. Also his W prevent Qiyana from bursting him.

Complicated MU : Viktor AurelionSol because they don't have the best range they don't have instant CC or easy CC to land on her. Viktor W requires Qiyana to stay a certain time to CC her and Aurelion Q is predictable.

You can easily avoid ulti by not staying close to walls.

I don't know why you are crying on her, out of all the assassins in this game, i prefer playing vs Qiyana than Zed, Akali etc...

WalkingInACircle3 votes

Oh, I do agree. She does quite a bit of damage but her kit is linear. And all the other ad assassins do the same damage anyway. Nerf duskblade.

Veloz Destello2 votes

Yeah, it's such a fair assassin. She only has 2 dashes, 2 stuns, one invisibility that also boost her MS, high damage in every stage of the game... Such a fair champ. That's why she's the only assassin played in pro, because she is so fair

StormBladeMaster1 votes

Her 2 dashes of Qiyana equal one Diana dash.

She has only one stun on her ulti, the water element is a small root and it's not OP.

The invisibility is on a short zone and she needs to reach her grass element to have it.

High damage probably in mid game but she falls hard on lategame and in early, some champs does even more dmg : Talon

She is very hard to play, that why pro are interested. It's cool and satisfying to make some good plays with Qiyana. Also like i said, she is like Sivir. Not terrible in solo Q but she is more powerful in pro because pro plays as team.

No, i don't think she is a problem.

StormBladeMaster1 votes

So people prefers playing vs Zed, Akali, Talon, Leblanc, Fizz, Diana and Ekko instead of Qiyana ?

That why you mean by disliking this topic lol.

Maybe you don't like assassins but i don't think it's prevent you from thinking about Qiyana. After all, her banrate wasn't high, she isn't permabanned and there isn't a lot of complains about her on the boards.

I think you are not objective, you don't like assassins, so Qiyana is hated too.

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