He's too strong right now and lacks serious counterplay. He's too tanky and too assassiny right now. His power is undodgeable and you can't kill him either cause he's tanky and fast.
Just make his E dodgeable and/or nerf his damage. He's not supposed to be a better assassin than actual assassins (zed/talon/fizz etc.)
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superfire4444 votes_> Who said he is better than the same assassins ? _ **Me, read what I wrote in the OP. He's legit a better assassin than assassins cause
> he is fine and his dmg is based on his ms **Except his damage is too high for how tanky he is. If he builds full damage then OK, but he doesn't. He builds triforce and full tank. **
> and i don't know what do you mean by "make his E dodgeable" His E can't be missed, it's a targetable ability, even if you dash. Make dash/flash able to dodge it (you can flash it to change direction but his damage and knockback still applies which doesn't make sense)
> cuz you already can dodge his ult So? doesn't mean he's fine. He can still 1shot squishies without counterplay
> or maybe you just suck against him ?? Or maybe you're a hecarim main who is afraid his freelo will get nerfed
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superfire4441 votesofc its undodgeable cuz HE IS RUNNING INTO YOU you can just run away from him and no need to make it a skillshot
You can't dodge his E, nor can you run away. Saying "you can just run away from him" is wrong
cuz that will make him almost full skillshot champion
and that's bad because?
how ? his ult ? its a skillshot so if he gets you its YOU cuz you couldn't dodge it
Not like it's as wide as a lane. Sure you can flash it or something but if he runs at you he will probably hit it.
tanky ? not as tanky as darius and renekton etc at early game he is actually a tank but his ms gives him that dmg
Not an acceptable excuse. He does too much damage for how tanky he is.
same as before
cuz its like a single target ability you can't make it a skillshot cuz it will be like his ult but without a fear
so what? still does sick damage and a knockback
they are SQUISHIES and he doesn't even 1shot (killing them using a single ability)
He does tho
i dont main him or anything but i played him and he is just fine or maybe he needs just a SMALL little nerfs and sorry for replying late
INoble KnightI2 votesHis E is dodgeable if you have an ability that can negate Autos. Also all targeted spells and Auto attacks work that way.
He can outrun you? No shit but so can Udyr, Garen, Kalista, Teemo, Draven, and many more through abilities or items.
His early game tank is pathetic because he usually rushes Tri force before getting any tank at all. Just play safe and don't let him snow ball or build some fucking armor/magic pen.
His damage comes from MS speed so he gets it from Ghost, Runs, masteries, JG item, Tri force, dragons, and deadman's plate. Gee looks like he needs a lot of stuff to get the little damage he gets. How odd.
His ult does very little damage and doesn't scale with AD so he must buy AP to do any damage with it. It's not "as large as the lane" either.
He never one shots a squishy. Ever. I used to play him a lot and never pulled that off even at full build. Also even if he could...THEY ARE FUCKING SQUISHY SO OF COURSE THEY GO SQUISH.
He has a lot of counter play actually. Play champs with slows, roots, stuns, grab exhaust, get rylais, get iceborne, get frozen mallet, or a champ with a knock back, knock up. Wow look at all that counterplay right there.
I stopped playing Hecarim when SOTA was removed cause I couldn't make him work anymore but when I see a hecarim against me in game I just counter the shit out of him cause it's easy.
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His E is dodgeable if you have an ability that can negate Autos. Also all targeted spells and Auto attacks work that way.
He can outrun you? No shit but so can Udyr, Garen, Kalista, Teemo, Draven, and many more through abilities or items.
His early game tank is pathetic because he usually rushes Tri force before getting any tank at all. Just play safe and don't let him snow ball or build some fucking armor/magic pen.
His damage comes from MS speed so he gets it from Ghost, Runs, masteries, JG item, Tri force, dragons, and deadman's plate. Gee looks like he needs a lot of stuff to get the little damage he gets. How odd.
His ult does very little damage and doesn't scale with AD so he must buy AP to do any damage with it. It's not "as large as the lane" either.
He never one shots a squishy. Ever. I used to play him a lot and never pulled that off even at full build. Also even if he could...THEY ARE FUCKING SQUISHY SO OF COURSE THEY GO SQUISH.
He has a lot of counter play actually. Play champs with slows, roots, stuns, grab exhaust, get rylais, get iceborne, get frozen mallet, or a champ with a knock back, knock up. Wow look at all that counterplay right there.
I stopped playing Hecarim when SOTA was removed cause I couldn't make him work anymore but when I see a hecarim against me in game I just counter the shit out of him cause it's easy.
i was going to say the same.
dominusx2 votessuck against him. good luck killing someone who runs you down with 700move speed while also having a big ass gapclosing ulti that fears people and also does like 700dmg to you instantly. smh
superfire4441 votesDon't forget his E!
Universal Boop1 votesWhat irritates me about Hecarim E is that i can knock him back as he starts his knock back animation but i still get knocked back.
INoble KnightI1 votesCause it's a targeted spell. That's how they work.
Awesomedude88881 votesHow the fuck do I kite this guy without 
?
superfire4441 votesBuying that on every champ is indeed the intended counterplay.
LIKES TO PÅRTY1 votesNot to mention you actually can't ward for him because he can run through lane at 100mph