Lucian needs a buff.

Violent Hunter··1 votes·1,420 views

Ok so basically you are hard nerfing fervor of battle. You are basically removing the armor pen build from adcs. Add on the fact that you nerfec his q damage nerfed his ranges on his q poke and w range. I can see him being shit in the preseason. So are you going to buff him at riot? I know win rate isn't end all be all but its already bottom 3 of the adcs and now everything that made him viable is getting nerfed to the ground and taken away. Soooo Are yall going to nip it in the bud riot or does he have to be shit the next 4 patches before you decide to do something about it.

TL;DR Lucian needs a buff after fervor nerfs, armor pen build removal in combination with nerfs to him previously will combine to him being basically not viable much like kog, kalista, and corki at one point.

And to anyone talking about oh well he was meta all season time for him to be gone remember the entirety of season 5 he was not viable at all. Secondly there are other adc that were more meta than him and barely got half the nerfs he has gotten and their win rates are always better than his.

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Ralanr1 votes

Or you can see how the nerfs effect him and go from there.

Violent Hunter1 votes

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Or you can see how the nerfs effect him and go from there.

I would agree with you there but Kalista got screwed and they have done nothing to her since early this season. Corki until that small buff when about 5 patches being complete trash. Vayne until the last two buff patches was in a horrible spot for 4-5 patches before they did anything. So I'd like to see it nipped in the bud. At least something along the lines of what they are doing with kog'maw atm after the revert.

Commit Sudoku1 votes

lethality lucian doesnt seem bad tbh

Violent Hunter1 votes

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lethality lucian doesnt seem bad tbh

He has no synergy with any of the items anymore. Neither does Jhin or MF for that matter. Movement speed for adc's isn't that important.

Particulate1 votes

ms for adcs is very important wtf are u talking about the higher the ms the more effective ur orbwalking and kiting ability will be. Lucian will go back to ie shiv build again just like the rest of the ads will transition back to the crit based mid late game spikes.

Violent Hunter1 votes

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ms for adcs is very important wtf are u talking about the higher the ms the more effective ur orbwalking and kiting ability will be. Lucian will go back to ie shiv build again just like the rest of the ads will transition back to the crit based mid late game spikes.

Not important enough that you would buy a item that only real benefit other than damage is MS. Basically youmuu isn't worth buying anymore at that point neither is cleaver because they combo'd with each other. ANd I'm not saying crit will be bad but what I'm saying is they nerfed him before because of the armor pen build with that build gone. I feel that'll make those nerfs he did receive more overbearing than they were intended to be. And not only that the fervor of battle nerf takes away a lot of his damage from team fighting. cobine all of that and it don't look like he will be viable especially with the adc's that are already better than him now.

Particulate1 votes

his laning is still strong enough that even with the raw ad of bf he will be fine for the crit build path, take warlords, and you can be a super bursty survival carry on lucian which ive run the build already, still feels really nice

ForgiveColour1 votes

Crit build is insanely troll on ad that can go armpen but gameplay wont care because rito is nerfing their beloved rylais soon

Revali1 votes

'wah wah my armorpen bullshit is getting reduced'

tl:dr

Violent Hunter1 votes

IF fervor wasn't also getting a nerf I wouldn't be bothering with the post. But fervor nerf plus item changes makes him overall weaker and he already isn't that strong now.

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