Can we do something about Rengar?

buster kiton·7/15/2015, 11:36:21 AM·1 votes·708 views

Alright. He's not overpowered. He can't 1v5. He's weak pre 6. He needs his items to be useful. But once he gets ghostblade-tiamat-LW you aren't going to play League of Legends any more in that game. Him killing you in less time than your latency allows you to flash/ult or whatever your defensive mechanic is is the definition of anti-fun. There is very little to none counterplay against him, since his stealth+ms boost allows him to be on you at the time you see the exclamation mark above your head. As I said, he's not overpowered necessarily but he is incredibly anti-fun to play against and he is the definiton of un-healthy gameplay.

He's way too binary to be straight out nerfed: if he doesn't oneshot someone he's pretty useless. He'd need a complete rework. I don't have much on that, but if anyone has any ideas I'd be happy to hear them.

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Kovaxz7/15/2015, 12:32:36 PM2 votes

Assassin doing what an assassin does. Concepts. If you play right this doesn't actually happen. Yes he can one shot a squishy but if you are careful with your team you can counter in several ways and escape. Trinkets that grant vision and pinks are your friends in this case, as well as some form of stun or slow to help keep off the burst, even exhaust. He is counterable and able to be dealt with even when he builds like that. He goes squish just like any other assassin.

Azurasha7/15/2015, 11:38:57 AM1 votes

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Alright. He's not overpowered. He can't 1v5. He's weak pre 6. He needs his items to be useful. But once he gets ghostblade-tiamat-LW you aren't going to play League of Legends any more in that game. Him killing you in less time than your latency allows you to flash/ult or whatever your defensive mechanic is is the definition of anti-fun. There is very little to none counterplay against him, since his stealth+ms boost allows him to be on you at the time you see the exclamation mark above your head. As I said, he's not overpowered necessarily but he is incredibly anti-fun to play against and he is the definiton of un-healthy gameplay.

He's way too binary to be straight out nerfed: if he doesn't oneshot someone he's pretty useless. He'd need a complete rework. I don't have much on that, but if anyone has any ideas I'd be happy to hear them.

Basically they'd have to shift power on him because he isn't blatantly overpowered.

But that didn't work when they first tried it, so they are probably going to leave him as-is until he becomes fotm.

TheRakkun7/15/2015, 3:48:11 PM1 votes

If anything Rengar needs a buff, all stealth champs do really, buff them and add some goddamn itemization for stealth.

BlackEyesBlue7/15/2015, 4:09:50 PM1 votes

He's just another reason I think Riot needs to re-evaluate how stealth works...

I've made arguments in the past (Which got down-voted into oblivion...) That Shaco Rengar and Teemo should have they're stealth work like Evelynn .

I've always thought hers made sense, and that it was incredibly dumb you can be standing right on top of Teemo and not be able to do anything about it; or that the other two, can just press a button and escape an inevitable death, and in Rango's case, even turn it into a kill!

Some have argued There stealth is inferior to Evelynn 's because its not permanent, To that I say, Ya!' they don't get it permanently, Just EXACTLY when they need it. :P