Its hit-box is ridiculously unpredictable for the player to use, with very unclear possibilities to hit or miss (most of the time, I see it miss) sometimes, it drags the target to its destination, which it should. But that outcome is minuscule compared to when it either
Can we address this issue?
Lowvyr18 votesPlease god
Maple Crusader9 votesYes please.
Zeke Maelstorm7 votesIf you want this to get serious attention I would advise adding some gifs of the ultimate not working correctly.
Bladerunner777712 votesShe flew OVER Nidalee
Duh!
Heckin Support3 votesThat little groan at the end is heart breaking.
IGotScuttleCrabs2 votesNidalee obviously pink warded the dragon
Weissritter7 votesThe hitbox is indeed wonky, but the drag doesn't actually drag to the destination. It only drags a set amount (hence why you'd think its wonky but is actually as intended; it drags TOWARDS the location but not necessarily TO it). I think I remember reading it was 150 units by a red post ages ago when this was brought up but I forget.
Its still dumb but is apparently 'not broken'. Which I hate saying as a Shyvana main =/
Sinlaire6 votesIt's not broken because it's intended. i have seen this post several times over several years and a few back a Red actually answered the post. They said the ult only drags a target to a set distance because they felt it would give Shyvana too much power to drag all champs struck by the Descent to her landing point.
if they let her drag all targets to her landing point it would allow her to;
every one of the champions listed above have at least one ability with the potential to devastate an enemy team if all 5 were caught. if shyv could push them all into a singular point, her ability to fatally synergize with a large portion of the roster would increase dramatically.
DontBanMeImDrunk5 votesIt's not broken because it's intended. i have seen this post several times over several years and a few back a Red actually answered the post. They said the ult only drags a target to a set distance because they felt it would give Shyvana too much power to drag all champs struck by the Descent to her landing point.
if they let her drag all targets to her landing point it would allow her to;
- completely disengage all champions diving into her team by shoving them out
- Allow her to completely zone all champions from attempting to arrive at an objective to contest or defend (shoving a team away from falling turret,baron, dragon)
- Allow her to shove potentially an entire enemy team into a singular point to receive splash damage from all three of her attacks as well as set up overly potent ally abilites.
every one of the champions listed above have at least one ability with the potential to devastate an enemy team if all 5 were caught. if shyv could push them all into a singular point, her ability to fatally synergize with a large portion of the roster would increase dramatically.
still doesnt change the fact that the ult is wonky.
UnderscorBunnies5 votesSooooo, an Azir ult but more dangerous for the user?
Sinlaire4 votesMore Dangerous for the enemy if she's fed.
Sammystorm3 votesThis argument although valid is not particularly relevant anymore with the existence of 
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesApples to Oranges, friend.
Nuparu2 votesApples to Oranges, friend.
How?
Azir with a proper drift can funnel everyone into one area (or, with a good fight location, one clustered area) where then he just throws his soldiers and decimates them.
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesApples to oranges because Azir is in a role that allows for Game changing plays. He is a mage, who would have to put himself into close range for this power, a mage who normally doesn't build resistances until very late in the game.
Shyvana is a heavy dueler who builds tanky leading out of the Mid game to Late. Due to her dueling power, she does not get the same game changing ults that Azir would have, because her power budget is allocated into her dueling power, not play making.
Apples to Oranges.
Nuparu1 votesIn usage, their ults should be functionally similar because that's what they're said to do - to move people towards a location to set up for something, whether it be Shyvana's Q/W/E aoe or Azir's W -> Q soldier spam.
In reality, Shyvana's ult does almost nothing, half the time can be a detriment even though it has comparable base damage, and it's only good if she lands right on top of people in order to try and multi-Q. Azir's ult is always functional, does a lot more utility, has much lower risk as they can't immediately turn back upon you without using an actual blink (not a dash) or Flash to get over, and sets up for his team much better.
Azir does absurd amounts of damage come late game, as well as a playmaker. Shyvana just tanks it up and does moderate damage late game. In the midgame, they both do absurd damage but Azir's still a playmaker. If he can do this from range and with minimal turn potential if done correctly, why can't Shyvana get some consistency in her ult pull distance?
Shy's ult is glitchier than Azir's entire character was on release, and if they just fixed the god damned hitbox on her ult to be accurate and not wonky as hell she'd be fine. That's all that's really needed to push her in the correct direction with it.
edit: i understand she's strong i swear to god if you people strawman that into this discussion i will literally take a fork and stab your internet wires with it
Sammystorm1 votesHow exactly is this apples to oranges?
The post I responded to specifically brought up these 3 points: "if they let her drag all targets to her landing point it would allow her to;
Which are all applicable, if not more so, to Azir.
Billy VoHagen1 votesAzir has to go in as a squishy mage. Shyvana gets to go in as a tank.
Sammystorm2 votesAzir can 1) completely disengage all champions diving into his team by shoving them out. 2) Can completely zone all champions from attempting to arrive at an objective to contest or defend. 3) Can shove an entire team into a singular point to receive splash damage.
I am not disagreeing about azir being squishy and shyvana being tank. However their ults function in a similar way that every single point that the person I was responding to apply to both shyvana and azir ultimates.
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesNot their ults, their general person. Azir is a mage, who mainly builds Power with little resistances. Shyvana is a fighter with tons of duel potential, who builds tankier later into the game.
Not to mention, Azir only pushes them slightly away. Shyvana would take them miles away, if she could.
Sammystorm1 votesI was specifically comparing their ults. I am not disagreeing about the range or trying to compare them specifically. I was saying that the specific reasons that the person I responded to said are no longer valid reasons because of azir's ult.
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesYou cannot compare their ults in a vacuum. Azir has his ult BECAUSE he is a mage, and is squishy. It's a power budget.
"Well just because he has it, she should too" is not the idea here. Her ult isn't meant to be some mass aoe disruption. What her ult is meant for, is to close gaps, while staggering an opponent if need be. It's not a game changing ult, because her kit is full of dueling potential.
So the reasons are not no longer valid, BECAUSE of the champions kits and roles. Vacuums don't work in game design.
Sammystorm2 votesI honestly don't think we will agree here.
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesThe point wasn't to agree. It was to refute your argument that since Azir's ult exists now in the game, having Shyvana the ability to clump people together for any wombo combos makes sense, or to make it work anyway like it's been suggested.
Sammystorm1 votesI don't feel like you have accomplished your goal of refuting and you clearly don't think I have accomplished my goal of trying to establish a point. Hence why I said I don't think we will agree. Regardless of how you feel I don't feel like this conversation will go anywhere so if I don't partake any longer that is why.
IGotScuttleCrabs4 votesApple 
Orange skin confirmed???
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesWell played...
SennaFirstPick1 votesIt's not broken because it's intended. i have seen this post several times over several years and a few back a Red actually answered the post. They said the ult only drags a target to a set distance because they felt it would give Shyvana too much power to drag all champs struck by the Descent to her landing point.
if they let her drag all targets to her landing point it would allow her to;
- completely disengage all champions diving into her team by shoving them out
- Allow her to completely zone all champions from attempting to arrive at an objective to contest or defend (shoving a team away from falling turret,baron, dragon)
- Allow her to shove potentially an entire enemy team into a singular point to receive splash damage from all three of her attacks as well as set up overly potent ally abilites.
every one of the champions listed above have at least one ability with the potential to devastate an enemy team if all 5 were caught. if shyv could push them all into a singular point, her ability to fatally synergize with a large portion of the roster would increase dramatically.
gnar already does it :v
RogueWill2 votesIt's not broken because it's intended. i have seen this post several times over several years and a few back a Red actually answered the post. They said the ult only drags a target to a set distance because they felt it would give Shyvana too much power to drag all champs struck by the Descent to her landing point.
if they let her drag all targets to her landing point it would allow her to;
- completely disengage all champions diving into her team by shoving them out
- Allow her to completely zone all champions from attempting to arrive at an objective to contest or defend (shoving a team away from falling turret,baron, dragon)
- Allow her to shove potentially an entire enemy team into a singular point to receive splash damage from all three of her attacks as well as set up overly potent ally abilites.
every one of the champions listed above have at least one ability with the potential to devastate an enemy team if all 5 were caught. if shyv could push them all into a singular point, her ability to fatally synergize with a large portion of the roster would increase dramatically.
Yet 
Ult is fine to drag you for a similar range and will do all 3 points that prevents shyvana for doing it plus he gets a stun if you get hit with terrain
Sinlaire1 voteseasily granted. But his Ult is gated behind a rage mechanic that can be difficult to appropriately micromanage while also having a dependant and weaker engage. This is also paired with the fact that his rage mode and impending engage is HORRIBLY telegraphed, while Shyv only has to have full rage and press her "Engage Now" button whenever she pleases with no warning at all.
So i will grant you that comparatively speaking Gnar's ult is stronger, but it is also sufficiently loaded with several points of "Counterplay".
RogueWill1 voteseasily granted. But his Ult is gated behind a rage mechanic that can be difficult to appropriately micromanage while also having a dependant and weaker engage. This is also paired with the fact that his rage mode and impending engage is HORRIBLY telegraphed, while Shyv only has to have full rage and press her "Engage Now" button whenever she pleases with no warning at all.
So i will grant you that comparatively speaking Gnar's ult is stronger, but it is also sufficiently loaded with several points of "Counterplay".
I'll give you the point that the rage has to be micromanaged, besides that Shyvana also is telegraphed (probably even more than gnar) and has even weaker enagage since she get a speed boost instead of a dash.
Shonjl1 votesWhich is funny since a lot of other champs have ults that have more power or CC to them, and hers actually puts her at risk. If she 5 man ults and they all got dragged to where she lands. That is 5 angry people beating her face instantly. Even with team help, if you aren't careful, tanky or not you can be instant killed. All because you used your only CC
Sinlaire1 votesWell i guess it's a damn good thing that She has 4 other team mates and SR isn't 5 v Dragon.
If you read through this entire thread you'll see about 5 people have replied to me in almost exactly the same way you have and i have to say i'm surprised to see it.
in All honesty, sure, her Ult surely isn't the strongest in a line up of power ratings, but her's also lacks any major form of counterplay short of just not standing in front of it. And most importantly, so what if she pushes 5 people and herself all into one spot to be focused?
Allow me to paint you a scenario. Shyvana Ults and catches 5 > the rest of her team shows up and cleans up. Shyvana dies in the mean time but her team only loses herself and another due to a good engage and follow up.
Who the bloody hell cares if she dies along the way? Her team got an ace and went of for either a win or several objectives along the way. I swear everyone just looks at it and say, "but her ult really sucks and places her right into the enemy team to get blown up." Well i guess its a damn good thing she isn't alone.
Weissritter1 votesOh I know it's not broken. I just meant I think its functionality and feel is really... dumb. I am aware of the intricacies of it lol
I honestly would rather they just remove the drag; it isn't even needed and I'm well aware of the stupidity it would cause if it perfectly dragged a group into wombos. I would rather just have it be like, an unstoppable gap closer and instead give Shyvana's fire trail (the trail only not the actual burnout vortex) in dragon form a slow or something and that's it.
Sairentosutoka1 votesThen it dragging the target to the end is a bug? like 50% of the time i will drag the target all the way to where i land but then other times it wont.
Weissritter1 votesCould be that the set range happened to get them to the end for you. Who knows lol
ScarnMichaelScar7 votes[{quoted}](name=Solis Umbra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kRfcfFEm,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-06T19:59:16.151+0000)
Its hit-box is ridiculously unpredictable for the player to use, with very unclear possibilities to hit or miss (most of the time, I see it miss) sometimes, it drags the target to its destination, which it should. But that outcome is minuscule compared to when it either
- Misses the target completely, even if Shyvana's model clearly passes through it OR
- Drags the target halfway or a fourth-way to the destination
Can we address this issue?
can we address the fact that anyone with any kind of cc can stop a DRAGON FROM LEAPING AT YOU FULL FORCE?
"oh did shyvana just ult? LOL NOPE 
edit:
vi is unstoppable a 140 pound girl running at you is unstoppable in her ult.
shyvana? nope anything and everything will stop you. syndra push? yep. stuns? yep. well placed trundle pillar? yeeep
Squarefighter1 votesThere was a rioter who talked about why this was a while ago. He gave a pretty good reason.
MyTeamIsAwsome3 votesI tried to insect someone as shyvana 1 time... i flashed and drag back to my team with no one. I felt so bad this time. (long time ago)
kaltenashes1 voteslol, i never even thought of doing that, but it would be awesome
MyTeamIsAwsome1 votessimilar champ can do it like xin,alistar or any champion with a knockback
Maximum Morde2 votesMy biggest complaint is being eaten by Tahm Kench while I'm in mid air lol.
Iron IV Shaco2 votesI actually posted something similar to this what seems feels like a year ago, so ill upvote ^- ^ ... I never got anywhere with it though
A Prop Phone2 votesI'll take the wonky collision if I can have CC immunity during the jump. Seriously, how can a massive flying dragon be insta-stopped by fucking Udyr bear stance, or Blitz pull, or some other nonsense?! Even Ezreal can negate Blitz pull, wtf?
ArcticSirius1 votesAnother thing I find odd is that she doesn't become "unstoppable" like 
or when ulting. Why do they get that while a veigar cage stops her dead in her tracks?
Francisco Pires1 votesAnother thing I find odd is that she doesn't become "unstoppable" like
Because her ult has no cooldown (only fury) and gives her stats and empowered abilities.
A Prop Phone2 votes[{quoted}](name=Francisco Pires,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kRfcfFEm,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-03-07T17:58:43.235+0000)
Because her ult has no cooldown (only fury) and gives her stats and empowered abilities.
It's also the only ult that doesn't count down when you're dead.
