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Jesus H. Christ

Shield Villain··20 votes·1,406 views

I now know the dread that Elise Evelynn Kassadin Olaf fans felt right before their favorite champions were nerfed.

With this suddenly new popularity of Runeglaive Ezreal, I've come to realize that I'll never be able to play AP Ezreal ever again. And boy oh boy am I pissed. I can't wait until they gut Ezreal instead of just removing runeglaive, or changing the fact that anytime a jungle item becomes popular, laners abuse it to oblivion. Seriously can't wait for his AP scalings to drop below 30% and his Cool Downs are lifted so fucking high, even a fed Chogath won't be able to reach them.

-Fucking Salty-

Seriously though, Riot, you need to stop doing this. It feels like every other patch now, some champion becomes either incredibly powerful and is instantly abused, or some champion was nerfed because of a recent change you made, What's the point of Beta if nothing changes from Beta and Live? All it really is is a prequel. I just really wish you would go in and fix these very preventable situations.

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Loken Stoneheart17 votes

You forgot Veigar, Cass, and Skarner in there.

Goodest Gamer3 votes

veigar is still braindead late game so nice meme 2.5k damage point and click

Loken Stoneheart12 votes

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veigar is still braindead late game so nice meme 2.5k damage point and click

Less damage than Nid Q, 15x's the cooldown. Less damage than Ekko ult, not AoE, doesn't heal Veigar his full healthbar.

Nice meme bro. They killed Veigar by removing 2 of his abilities entirely. Any winrate he has is because Luden's is a dumb item on generic spammy poke mages, which they turned him into.

Also, yeah. He totally doesn't have 2000 AP unless his team won the game and decided to toy with their food.

Goodest Gamer1 votes

late game presses e on adc, press r. "OMFG MY veigar is broken now"

Loken Stoneheart7 votes

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late game presses e on adc, press r. "OMFG MY veigar is broken now"

ADC walks out of E, as anyone can with basic boots, or with ease with T2s. Bought a banshees veil because they know Veigar can't pop it, as he has one spell and its on an 80 second CD.

Goodest Gamer1 votes

banshees got popped before fight because its a shit item and then veigar does whathe wants.

BottleCapster1 votes

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Less damage than Nid Q, 15x's the cooldown. Less damage than Ekko ult, not AoE, doesn't heal Veigar his full healthbar.

Nice meme bro. They killed Veigar by removing 2 of his abilities entirely. Any winrate he has is because Luden's is a dumb item on generic spammy poke mages, which they turned him into.

Also, yeah. He totally doesn't have 2000 AP unless his team won the game and decided to toy with their food.

Last I checked, Veigar still had a full allotment of skills, so i don't know which 2 skills you claim they "removed entirely". Likewise Veigar's power-level is quite high especially with the ability to farm your ap twice as fast now, and even after the reliability nerf, Event Horizon is still one of the most powerful stuns in the game. The tiny master of evil is still quite alive and deleting pugs as usual (Remember that he still factors in 80% of his opponent's AP in his ult damage).

Loken Stoneheart9 votes

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Last I checked, Veigar still had a full allotment of skills, so i don't know which 2 skills you claim they "removed entirely". Likewise Veigar's power-level is quite high especially with the ability to farm your ap twice as fast now, and even after the reliability nerf, Event Horizon is still one of the most powerful stuns in the game. The tiny master of evil is still quite alive and deleting pugs as usual (Remember that he still factors in 80% of his opponent's AP in his ult damage).

His W and E do not function until super late game, and even then they only work because people don't pay enough attention in teamfights, or get caught out by another champion's CC. In lane, he has Q. His R doesn't even do anything because he can't get anybody low enough on his own to secure a kill. If a champion, in a 1v1 (all of laning phase), is ever caught by Veigar's W or E, that person has genuinely screwed up.

He isn't close to his old self, they genuinely ruined the champion and turned him into generic poke-champion 110. He might do alright, but it doesn't make him feel right as a champion. He's a shell of his former self, gone the same route as Cassiopeia-- perhaps objectively stronger, but identity essentially destroyed and remade in Riot's rework image.

Davy Crockett1 votes

to be fair, i hate luden's on veigar. i hate ludens in general. granted the additional damage granted on proc is good, i still dont like the item.

chipndip11 votes

The scalings are less because his base damage stat is basically infinite...

CubedJustice1 votes

Warwick, too.

Stiv12343 votes

Dont worry, they are just nerfïng Runeglaive not to proc spell effects anymore, so no more Runeglaive-Ludens cheese.

1000angrybees3 votes

I saw an ez with runeglaive and he was just throwing around q's with reckless abandon. He didnt care if he hit champs or not. All that mattered was if he hit anything.

Saianna2 votes

Jesus H. Christ

Wot?

FastAsHeck2 votes

can we just get rid of ap ez altogether? have you ever tried playing agianst an ap ez as a melee? unless you are a bruiser and you can afford to build tanky, he is really not fun to play against and you just want to afk that game. lets face it, his w hitting you for 1/3 of your hp is not fun neither takes much skill.

Shield Villain2 votes

I'm not against AP Ezreal, his kit can boast a good burst if it wants, after all, they're ALL Skill Shots with the exception on E that is on a 5-8 second cool down.

Before Kalista, Ezreal would easily be considered a Kiting King. His E and Q allowing him to kite if you utilized his spells correctly and could land both his skill shots, QW. Without landing his skill shots he doesn't do a whole lot of damage, even as an ADC.

Ap Ez can feel unfair, until you realize all your skills have to be on point. Even then someone like an assassin, or a bruiser with a gap closer, can reach him and kill him. Fuck, even Udyr can run up to him and smack him in the face.

There is nothing wrong with Ap Ezreal. There is only this sudden problem with people abusing Runeglaive. It's the same as Juggernaut Top Shyvana.

FastAsHeck1 votes

its just not fun to play against though... every time his w hits you you feel more and more like going afk.

OxBaker1 votes

Could be worse. They are preemptively nerfing Shyvana in preparation for the new Devourer jungle item. I'm sure lane Shyvana players are really going to appreciate that...

Solari Fortune1 votes

They are nerfing runeglaive so it can't proc spell effects such as rylai's and luden's. Bye AP smite Ez and your ludicrous damages. Even the LCS was shocked by the damage

Vistha Kai1 votes

Did you know: Runeglaive proc applies on Ezreal's Q and TURNS IT INTO MAGIC DAMAGE? Or every on-hit ability for that matter?

Silents4291 votes

League boards know balance. Obviously.

Rew7111 votes

I'm honestly still mad at what they're trying to do to item 3050. This item is something all supports can use in at least early to late game. Think about it, your ADC does not buy any life steal, you buy a item that gives it + 20 bonus AD. Now, after a certain while, your ADC (that already will have broken amounts of critical if you buy this item) will now have 50% bonus critical. Even for 6 seconds, that's stupid towards the people at Riot. With no way to dodge basic shots from ADCs, this is abusive on so many levels. All you had to do to Zeke's Herald was put another scaling item in there (for example: item 3144) to possibly add some AD and raise it up to 30 bonus AD to allies and gain an active that can "heal" an ally for 100 and give them bonus 25% MS for 2 seconds (cool down will be 90 seconds) and raise the price up to 3000 gold or so.

atomicwit1 votes

The thing is, there is more whining than actual substance to AP Ezreal. 47% winrate even in Diamond+ hardly counts as abuse. People just look at the burst and think "OP" ignoring all the other weaknesses like the long ramp-up time, lack of CC, lack of Summoner, still weak waveclear, etc. Becoming viable and people failing to understand it or play around it properly is not the same as being abused.

Visigoth1 votes

Forgot how Khazix players felt about his gut in season 4.

I still have nightmares.

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