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Spacesuit Spiff38 votes

"But then the support kills the adc 1v1" Perks of being a naut main

Gentleman Gems18 votes

Well as you can see I was Tahm Kench VS. Twitch so we know how that would go...

Panwar1 votes

I would say a good majority of supports win a 1v1 against an adc as long as it's early game.

askild9919 votes

coughZyra cough

LICENSED HOOKER10 votes

Brand "sup"

MohawkBird5 votes

Just like Annie "support". Those two champions support by just nuking teams.

Treyen1 votes

pretty much any support, properly played, beats adc in a 1v1 early game. It's why supports are supports, they tend to have high base stats/base damage/hard cc, so they can be useful without a ton of gold.

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

Ive done it as naut at level 10-14 many times. It takes some nuance (and summoner spells) but its always possible before they get lifesteal. I imagine a mage support could win in most situations at any (annie) point tho

Aír18 votes

I'd rather naut then... then... shivers and looks into the distance with fear

summoner 14 Annie summoner 14

Gubaguy10 votes

Sona item 3100 item 3285 item 3089

Bârd4 votes

Bard They never expect me to actually deal damage.

LCP CoconutDill1 votes

bard damage is scary when hes at 100+ chimes ._.

NightOfLight2 votes

Sona ...

zackypooh4 votes

Karma Leblanc Morgana Volibear [slayer-jinx-wink]

Georgiaboy16901 votes

Morgana im fed

Ryzing2Diamond2 votes

I've had my share of Ryze support games. The ADC will lose an 1v1 vs me.

Gunslinger74414 votes

Legitimate question. Ryze support: Why

ThePurpleKnight2 votes

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Legitimate question. Ryze support: Why

Not enough skill to play Lux or Morgana.

Ryzing2Diamond3 votes

You have NO clue how much damage a good Ryze can dish out with two items. I wouldn't even believe me if I hadn't done it myself countless times.

Ryzing2Diamond9 votes

Ryze is my best champion. I simply feel that my team is better off with me playing a champion I am genuinely good with as opposed to a more powerful pick like say... Leona or Thresh. Sure I have a good kit, but what good is that kit if, like the fellow said before, I don't have the experience necessary as those champions to win the matchup? i've had times, and this is in low gold/high silver, mind you, where i've been able to 2v1 the enemy ADC and Supp and outplay them by... ahem, desperate power.

Ryze is a champion you bring as support when you want to obliterate your enemies. He's best with an ADC like Graves or Ashe that can either do a lot of damage very quickly (Just like him, even as a support) or stun someone long enough for him to get one combo off, because one combo is usually all it takes.

As for his cons... He doesn't fight well against a Graves, Draven or Braum. So if you see any of them on the enemy team, steer clear. Braum blocks his entire combo with his shield and Graves/Draven simply do too much damage to leave room for plays (Which you HAVE to make as Ryze support) Also, Kindred is his hard counter. If you see a Kindred on the enemy team and you pick Ryze supp you're basically done. Her invulnerability makes your sustain and burst useless. Ryze supp thrives on being able to kill them before they kill you. If you can't kill them, even if you're invulnerable for a short time as well, you can't do anything. It's hard to put into words, please forgive that. But trust me, Kindred is a no-go. If you can get her on your team though she and him are pretty good.

I've had people add me after the game saying things like: I didn't know Ryze support was so good... It's hard to believe but either. 1: I'm really good at Ryze, or 2: Ryze is just in a very good spot and can successfully be played as support. One of the two.

Spellthief isn't a bad item on him. Take it with Bandit and you actually make a lot of gold. I've seen poor saps use relic shield and have 400/600 gold by 30 minutes while I had 1k/1.2k...

Spacesuit Spiff3 votes

I suspect you could pick up a mage more suited to support if you put a weekend into it, but if this is working for ya then more power to you.

I Bearly Gank2 votes

Brand adc can't even move to hit me

WolfBV2 votes

Leona "You come here often?"

ConanTheReaver1 votes

Nah, when I'm playing Braum I don't even need an adc.

Only Play Darius1 votes

What about Zyra "support"? Or Nidalee support back when it was a thing?

Dayblazer1 votes

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What about Zyra "support"? Or Nidalee support back when it was a thing?

Zyra is a legit support. She has high base dmgs and only needs pen to do it. She brings lots of cc and a knockup as well. Everything you need in a support.

Georgiaboy16901 votes

Alistar tank knock up knock back heal best support

7ha7guy7771 votes

RIP truck

Yi Bencheikh1 votes

Annie meanwhile the supp is annie

JuiciestDaddy4201 votes

Darius I hope you don't mind i decided to tp down to wreck your shit

alfavhunter1 votes

Anivia support with a graves adc

The burst. Is. DEVASTATING

Kitty Clarissa1 votes

When i play Sona who needs my ADC :3 when i can chunk you for most of your life and heal back up

Clockwork Mouse1 votes

but then Rengar shows up.

Fowus1 votes

TahmKench wtf stop tickling me

Epic Murph1 votes

Come near the turret, I DARE YA Thresh

Kuzja11 votes

Seems like only Hecarim

iluvalar1 votes

Sona item 3094 Powerchorded to death, never managed to get in range of touching me. Sorry...

Solitair1 votes

except that you're a blitzcrank so you bait them near tower, hook them in, and kill them yourself.

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