Why isnt Ekko played more?

Mulan88·Dec 23, 2018·8 votes·8,154 views

I tried out in a few games and hes been suprisingly strong, kinda tanky and does a lot of damage. I don't get why people don't use him, he can roam easy, do well in teamfights, and be strong in lane.

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D3m37r1Dec 23, 20183 votes

Ekko is one of the more fair assassins. Everything except his E is telegraphed . Good players can easily avoid most of his stuff. That's why he isn't played more.

AazzlanoDec 23, 20184 votes

lol "more fair"

he doesn't even need to interact in lane if he doesn't want to because he can just autoclear with Q

his other abilities might be telegraphed but there's not much you can do about him E'ing onto you and Q'ing your face, then running at Stormrazor Jhin level speeds out of there. Or just chasing you more and killing you because he has massive movement speed and you are slowed immensely. and you can't even position behind minions or anything like that to have better zone control, you are fully vulnerable no matter where you are within his range.

you can't duel him because he will just W on top of you, forcing you to run to get out of it. while he can just freely hit you and slow you while you have to move. and he never has to use W to clear waves so it will ALWAYS be up, so you can't like catch him off guard with his CDs down the way you could do with even Fizz or Zed or something, if they used Playful/Trickster or Zed's W.

and you can't burst him when his ult is up, and god forbid you get hit by it lol.

he has executes on his autos when you are low, for some absolutely unknown reason.

honestly this champ is beyond stupid, you basically just have to stay way out of range in order to be safe, and even then, he often builds Protobelt so you are gonna have to stay even further back. and the fact that he is melee isn't even a disadvantage when he can threaten to E-Q-auto you if you try to harass him in lane. which does obscene damage with his passive and all lands within a tiny window and gives him massive movement speed to just run away after, so harassing isn't even a really safe/viable way to deal with him early on.

i'm glad more people don't play this champ tbh

Nicolasbo143Dec 23, 20182 votes

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lol "more fair"

he doesn't even need to interact in lane if he doesn't want to because he can just autoclear with Q

his other abilities might be telegraphed but there's not much you can do about him E'ing onto you and Q'ing your face, then running at Stormrazor Jhin level speeds out of there. Or just chasing you more and killing you because he has massive movement speed and you are slowed immensely. and you can't even position behind minions or anything like that to have better zone control, you are fully vulnerable no matter where you are within his range.

you can't duel him because he will just W on top of you, forcing you to run to get out of it. while he can just freely hit you and slow you while you have to move. and he never has to use W to clear waves so it will ALWAYS be up, so you can't like catch him off guard with his CDs down the way you could do with even Fizz or Zed or something, if they used Playful/Trickster or Zed's W.

and you can't burst him when his ult is up, and god forbid you get hit by it lol.

he has executes on his autos when you are low, for some absolutely unknown reason.

honestly this champ is beyond stupid, you basically just have to stay way out of range in order to be safe, and even then, he often builds Protobelt so you are gonna have to stay even further back. and the fact that he is melee isn't even a disadvantage when he can threaten to E-Q-auto you if you try to harass him in lane. which does obscene damage with his passive and all lands within a tiny window and gives him massive movement speed to just run away after, so harassing isn't even a really safe/viable way to deal with him early on.

i'm glad more people don't play this champ tbh

What champion do u find not incredibly stupid and braindead? Ekko has a pretty high mana cost on his Q, and actually is fun to play. His abilities are easy to counter too, as they are pretty telegraphed. I think you just overestimate every single one of his abilities, and make them sound overpowered.

AazzlanoDec 23, 20181 votes

most champions in the game? besides most certainlyT champs, of course.

and how do I overestimate them. I lane against him quite often.

his E-Q-auto combo at level 3 does 300+210% AP damage btw (BEFORE ELECTROCUTE, which adds ~50+25% AP on top of that). and it has a 750 range on it, which is way bigger than anyone's autoattack range and almost every mage's targeted spells so he doesn't have the vulnerability of being able to be harassed at range. which means he actually zones YOU at any point in time.

With Electrocute and Ignite, it's 350+235% AP, plus 130 true damage. Considering he will start with 20-30 AP, that's 400 damage + 130 true damage. That's not a trivial amount of damage considering you have like 800 hp or less at level 3. If you get hit by almost anything before it, you are easily in kill range.

the champ is bullshit.

Nicolasbo143Dec 24, 20181 votes

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most champions in the game? besides most certainlyT champs, of course.

and how do I overestimate them. I lane against him quite often.

his E-Q-auto combo at level 3 does 300+210% AP damage btw (BEFORE ELECTROCUTE, which adds ~50+25% AP on top of that). and it has a 750 range on it, which is way bigger than anyone's autoattack range and almost every mage's targeted spells so he doesn't have the vulnerability of being able to be harassed at range. which means he actually zones YOU at any point in time.

With Electrocute and Ignite, it's 350+235% AP, plus 130 true damage. Considering he will start with 20-30 AP, that's 400 damage + 130 true damage. That's not a trivial amount of damage considering you have like 800 hp or less at level 3. If you get hit by almost anything before it, you are easily in kill range.

the champ is bullshit.

I feel like your just complaining about his damage (so many other champs do way more damage, and don't even have to go into melee range to do it). As I've mentioned before, his abilities are very telegraphed, and if he gets in range to E-Q you, then that's your fault. He gets easily countered by a lot of champions such as Kassadin and Yasuo. BTW, Ekko sees no play at all in Pro play, and is rarely seen in solo q, as many one tricks prefer to play hard carry champs like yasuo or zed. My suggestion is try playing Ekko yourself, as he really isn't that bad as you put him to be.

AazzlanoDec 25, 20181 votes

dude I don't know if you understand this, but he isn't just standing there all lane and I choose to get in range or not. His combo has ridiculous damage at early levels and they know it does, so they can choose to zone you if they want. It's not "getting in melee range" it's that the E has 750 total zoning range so he actually zones most mages that don't have frontloaded burst to match his. It's not about actually getting hit by his stuff, it's that its so powerful that it forces you to play way back. and if he is behind he can just autoclear with q so it's no problem.

and ROFLMAO at "easily countered by champs such as Kassadin and Yasuo" yeah like 99% of mages are too. what an example.

Nicolasbo143Dec 30, 20181 votes

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dude I don't know if you understand this, but he isn't just standing there all lane and I choose to get in range or not. His combo has ridiculous damage at early levels and they know it does, so they can choose to zone you if they want. It's not "getting in melee range" it's that the E has 750 total zoning range so he actually zones most mages that don't have frontloaded burst to match his. It's not about actually getting hit by his stuff, it's that its so powerful that it forces you to play way back. and if he is behind he can just autoclear with q so it's no problem.

and ROFLMAO at "easily countered by champs such as Kassadin and Yasuo" yeah like 99% of mages are too. what an example.

Yea....it seems like you have trouble dealing with ekko. Because he is not overpowered, as obviously seen in higher elos. There are so many champions that do way more damage. If u play a mage like TF, u can zone him. Ekko is gated by mana costs and melee range and takes time to set up his combo. He's not 1 shotting ppl unless rly fed.

AazzlanoDec 31, 20181 votes

are you even reading what I am typing at all or are you just autopiloting your posts? literally when did I say a single time that he is overpowered. wtf? or when did I say he 1 shots people?

and lol you obviously haven't played vs a half decent Ekko player if you think it takes time to set up anything. you just E into them and Q their face. it takes literally no time to do that.

Nicolasbo143Dec 31, 20181 votes

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are you even reading what I am typing at all or are you just autopiloting your posts? literally when did I say a single time that he is overpowered. wtf? or when did I say he 1 shots people?

and lol you obviously haven't played vs a half decent Ekko player if you think it takes time to set up anything. you just E into them and Q their face. it takes literally no time to do that.

Then what are u complaining about? The damage he does? He's an assassin.

AazzlanoJan 1, 20191 votes

you should go back and read the comments since obviously you still haven't. simple solution to your problem of not understanding

Flower BòyDec 23, 20183 votes

in decent elo,if you can't play him good,you gonna lose lane since the highest mid lane champs right now all do good against him and hes pretty bad early game,if you can actually do good with him and understand every matchup you can win alot of games tho,he's not "beyond stupid" like the guy above me said btw

LeftyRaydyDec 31, 20181 votes

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in decent elo,if you can't play him good,you gonna lose lane since the highest mid lane champs right now all do good against him and hes pretty bad early game,if you can actually do good with him and understand every matchup you can win alot of games tho,he's not "beyond stupid" like the guy above me said btw

well he really does have too many "good" lanes. It's all about seizing opportunity with him and capitalizing on enemy mistakes. Most games you will just be focused on dodging poke though as his Q is not reliable to poke with and if you use E to go in then you also have no escape unless you proc your passive.

SamsungerDec 23, 20183 votes

He's not meta anymore, he loses so many matchups. There are champions like Yasuo who mitigate all his damage. His Q costs too much mana and doesn't do enough. This only damage he has in his kit is hit 3 hit passive, and after you use that for a trade, you're left running back to safety while still being harrased so you're ultimately losing the trade. Also theres one part of his kit thats pretty never going to be use in lane which is his W because it costs too much mana and noone ever lands it. Let me not evenr ant about his late game refer to this post:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/JjrxKAur-ekko-needs-a-rework-asap

AngelFrost00Dec 23, 20181 votes

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He's not meta anymore, he loses so many matchups. There are champions like who mitigate all his damage. His Q costs too much mana and doesn't do enough. This only damage he has in his kit is hit 3 hit passive, and after you use that for a trade, you're left running back to safety while still being harrased so you're ultimately losing the trade. Also theres one part of his kit thats pretty never going to be use in lane which is his W because it costs too much mana and noone ever lands it. Let me not evenr ant about his late game refer to this post:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/JjrxKAur-ekko-needs-a-rework-asap

His Q has high mana cost mainly because he can Q the entire minion wave as it enters the lane ( Straight line ) and then Q them again which isn't really fun to play against from my experience. He can annihilate your entire minion wave and keep in mind its probably around 2 Q's and bunch of autos perhaps maybe even 3 (I dont know it been long time since I played league) + ALL Ekko Mains usually build item 2033 item 1082 and that allows him to Q more in lane. IMO Ekko's biggest problem is his W, his W is terrible , its really obvious where he is gonna use it even if he just came out of fog of war, you can walk out of it easily because of the 3 s delay, I barely ever see someone land it in lane.

You should of seen ekko during release, disgustingly op. (not implying he is now)

BlåbæretDec 23, 20183 votes

Why play Ekko and have to setup your damage and use your brain when you can play Zed build item 3134 and delete anyone with R + auto?

LTK KoRoDec 24, 20182 votes

Its funny how people are still complaining about Zed even when he's at his weakest

FarkinobDec 23, 20182 votes

I've seen him a few times, he used to be really hard to learn how to counter. Once you understand his mechanics he's not too hard to beat.

Noor SakataDec 23, 20181 votes

He's surely strong , but underrated , people will realize it later , Like Lissandra for example

Ivern and IreliaDec 23, 20181 votes

shhhhhh, dont bring attention to my secret op pocketpick

SwiftKitten88Dec 23, 20181 votes

... the same answer too most questions of why "x champion" isnt played anymore.

sure they may be good... but their not BROKEN.

there are so many champion out there that are flat out broken. its completely impossible to ban them all. and instead of fixing them riot is just breaking more.

league is not logner a game of "pick a cvhampion u like and learn it.. good good with it, carry with it" its "picks whats OP... spend 5 games getting the general idea of how to play them, and beat anyone who isn't also on a broken champion"

Ionian VulpixDec 23, 20181 votes

Because he's relatively balanced. AP assassins are worse than AD assassins because they have to build the mage items, and unlike LeBlanc or Fizz, his burst takes time to set up and he doesn't have that much safety unless he uses his ult, which is also a massive damage option.

He's not easy.

Modl Ryden lDec 31, 20181 votes

He's had a series of nerfs after his release that made him feel a bit clunky. I think they reduced the range of his E or increased the delay of it's on-hit activation. Not sure. But I've played a lot of him at one point then he got nerfed and he felt different to me so I stopped playing him. I do love his lore and his trailers though. Great champion with a great background for sure.

LeftyRaydyDec 31, 20181 votes

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I tried out in a few games and hes been suprisingly strong, kinda tanky and does a lot of damage. I don't get why people don't use him, he can roam easy, do well in teamfights, and be strong in lane.

high Plat Ekko 1 Trick here if you want to know more about the champion feel free to hit me up.

InfernapeDec 31, 20181 votes

Tbh other assassins do what he does much faster and more efficiently. He's pretty niche for the most part (which means barely anyone bans him :))

Honestly Ekko doesn't feel like an assassin, he feels more like a skirmisher.

Power CosmicDec 31, 20181 votes

jungle ekko isnt exactly meta but can help teams win in a lot of ways.

HeavenHydraSep 11, 20191 votes

You clearly don’t understand all the possibilities that ekko is offering you. He has so many combos that can cancel most of animations. If someone is un his R the ennemi is dead. Easy pentakills and just by the way Im making scores of 25-7-5. He don’t use much mana. He is as much underestimated as Vel’Koz. He is ans extremely good champ. I recommend you to try him