Why do players not build Iceborn Gauntlet on Illaoi?

GrievousFetus··2 votes·1,931 views
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So I was wondering about this, because it seems like an absolutely perfect item for her. the vast majority of Illaoi's damage comes from passive tentacles which swing at enemies who are hit by her W auto attack modifier. The tentacles are slow and easily avoided by most players with a competent reaction time, and because the tentacles aim based on auto attack'd enemies rather than them being skill shots you can't lead them or anything of the sort. Illaoi has the second highest base attack damage in the game and her W auto attack modifier is on an extremely low cooldown. Iceborn gauntlet gives her 100% base AD and a 30% slow on every W, which causes tentacles to slam on slowed targets unable to simply walk out of them.

I don't know, it seems like the item is literally tailor made for every aspect of her kit, but nobody buys it on her. Is it solely because both it and cleaver have 20% CDR, so if she buys IBG she ends up radically overcapping CDR because she also wants spirit visage or Death's Dance?

Will wee see IBG on Illaoi suddenly spring up when transcendence comes out during the rune rework?

11 Comments

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Itz just not worth it. You can get better versions of this from other items, and the slow is the only unique part illaoi would like.

PopcornBunni1 votes

Because the armor is a wasted stat on an immobile juggernaut. She gets much more mileage out of item 3078 because of the AD, Health, and better damage when using her W.

jwebb01131 votes

i dont get how armor is wasted on an immobile juggernaut

PopcornBunni1 votes

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i dont get how armor is wasted on an immobile juggernaut

Because you need to be able to withstand both damage types, and by going with armor over heallth, you basically pidgeonhole yourself into needing to buy item 3156 for the AP on their team, reducing your damage output needed for a juggernaut.

Now if the enemy team is full AD, go wild with Iceborn.

jwebb01133 votes

no just how armor is wasted... armor is never a waste. the turrets do physical damage, the creeps and jungle monsters do physical damage and auto attacks do physical damage

and i understand having a balance of resistances with having hp ... but to make the statement that armor is a waste isnt exactly true . and on top of that... isnt ice born cheaper? and dont octobitch got black cleaver as well? giving the passive of phage and hp while getting the % armor shred on stacks ? so having a item 3025 item 3071 is better then getting item 3071 item 3078 due to the phage/ms passives dont stack

GrievousFetus2 votes

I fail to see how IBG pigeonholes you into need to buy Maw when you could just buy spirit visage instead, which Illaoi synergizes greatly with.

jwebb01131 votes

my only thing about iceborn being built on octobitch is her abilities are range so if you proc it after using an ability at range how does she effectively take use of the aoe slow on the target ?

when she has to hit them with a basic attack after procing the sheen passive

GrievousFetus1 votes

Illaoi's W both primes spellblade and procs spellblade, like almost all AA resets. You aren't using Q or E and then aiming to attack the enemy with normal autos, you're W'ing them, which instantly applies the slow, and while they're slowed all passive tentacles slam at the target you W'd. Iceborn prevents them from walking out of the slam jam.

jwebb01131 votes

i dont play the champ i dont like her

that being said

does the slow from frozen mallet applies on hit ? like you are saying her W does with iceborn ?

GrievousFetus1 votes

Yeah it does, but IBG is 400 gold cheaper, Illaoi's got mana difficulties earlier in the game, and you get an early sheen for powerful trades in lane.

Right now Frozen Mallet is probably slightly better, but once transcendence comes out I think IBG is going to be strictly better.

jwebb01131 votes

right i get that.

and in all honesty there arent alot of ad/melee items that give mana

either you have to get item 3025 or item 3078

there are some tanky items that give mana but no damage item 3110 item 3800 item 3050

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