Building damage for normally beefy champs....

Elindiir··1 votes·445 views

Its very common now for people to build really tanky on normally squishy champions (see Akali Ekko Evelynn Fiora Lissandra Soraka Teemo )

However, what about tanky champions that work well building damage on? (Like Tryndamere )

Who is your favorite tanky champ to build damage on?

9 Comments

Wild Wes1 votes

Tryndamere's a tank? I mean sure he's got his ultimate but still...

Big Lincoln1 votes

most AP tanks Sejuani Nautilus Zac Maokai have high enough base damage they really only need magic penetration if they want to be a huge damage threat

item 3151 item 3001 work very well on them

Ruin Lance1 votes

what??? trynd already builds damage

Elindiir1 votes

Believe it or not, Tryndamere's base stats are the second tankiest in the game behind Alistair.

I use Tryndamere as a bit of an exaggeration and example because of this.

Ruin Lance2 votes

i know he has crazy base stats, which is stupid and makes no sense for what he does. it still doesn't make him a tank though

Elindiir1 votes

Theres a difference between 'Tank' and 'Tanky'

Shyvanna is 'Tanky' but she is not a devoted tank... Tryndamere is 'Tanky' but not a devoted tank... I am basing how 'Tanky' or 'Squishy' champs are by their base stats because this is about builds and not the exact role of a champion.

If I build full AD/Attack Speed Shyvanna, she is still a beefy champion as is Tryndamere just because of their base stats.

EDIT: Unfortunately, this was supposed to be a fun thread but then nitpicking happened and I had to start explaining things ugh.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Shyvana, with only ONE n, is a diver/juggernaut hybrid, aka a mix of two heavily defensive classes. Tryndamere is an openly damage-oriented champion since design.

Ralanr1 votes

Sion I personally enjoy an attack speed build with beefy on hit items since I get to weave in my massive CC abilities with some surprisingly powerful auto attacks. But since I'm not gonna be as tanky (really I don't get to build any resistances in this build) I only do this if my team has a dedicated tank and we do so well early game that I can build item 3930 (this build will be difficult to do with the removal of devourer, but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few).

As for Tryndamere, there really is nothing worse you could do to build him tanky. His ultimate is what allows those full damage items builds because he ignores damage for a brief period of time. Everytime I see a Tryndamere enter a teamfight, he goes down quickly but keeps up because of his ult. If he didn't have a high damage build, then his ult wouldn't be very useful because if he finally "dies" while doing pitiful damage, he'll just "come back" and do more pitiful damage (I know he doesn't die, but whenever he ults I just assume he died).

Some champions need to build damage for their kits to function. Ekko has a very versatile kit. Now versatile kits are not inherently bad for the game, it is just that they are really hard to balance. For versatile kits you want not only even trade offs, but for these different builds to be things people want to utilize. You want people to consider building Ekko as a tank, a bruiser, or a full assassin (his kit makes some tanks jealous), similar to how people build JarvanIV or how they used to build Poppy before she was nerfed (they are both AD scaling tanks, meaning that they synergize greatly with bruiser/juggernaut items). But if one build is all around better than the other (when Tank Ekko has enough damage to do Assassin Ekko's job better for example) then we have a complicated and outright annoying mess.

Course we could also blame items. But I think that powerful items are at their worse when abused by champions with versatile kits that are leaned in too far a direction (or they are Ezreal).

Ladrac1 votes

Garen I like to go full ad Garen with a lot of crit chance...is really funny to play. Or AP Amumu, no one expects so much damage from him.

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