People actually believe Zed needs a nerf?!

Indominus 1337··4 votes·1,310 views

hehe xd

Thank god I am not low elo!

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Paroe4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus 1337,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k9nqJfMO,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-18T10:24:42.213+0000)

hehe xD

Thank god I am not low elo!

Assassins were categorized by a lack of of early game and an inability to farm effectively. Zed is an AD caster type assassin; that is to say, he is an AD mage.

The reason he needs nerfs is because he has NONE of the weaknesses of an assassin, NONE of the weaknesses of an AD caster, and all of the benefits of both. leblanc also needs changes for this reason but obviously from the AP spectrum. He has no counterplay besides hard CC and burst inserted directly into the rectum.

Indominus 13371 votes

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Assassins were categorized by a lack of of early game and an inability to farm effectively. Zed is an AD caster type assassin; that is to say, he is an AD mage.

The reason he needs nerfs is because he has NONE of the weaknesses of an assassin, NONE of the weaknesses of an AD caster, and all of the benefits of both. leblanc also needs changes for this reason but obviously from the AP spectrum. He has no counterplay besides hard CC and burst inserted directly into the rectum.

Nothing you said is true. Assassins have always had good wave clear, Talon .

Zed has a lot of weaknesses:

-Avoidable damage -Delayed damage -Squishy -1 target killing focused kit -Melee based

spombjop3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus 1337,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k9nqJfMO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-05-18T10:34:58.374+0000)

Nothing you said is true. Assassins have always had good wave clear, Talon .

Zed has a lot of weaknesses:

-Avoidable damage -Delayed damage -Squishy -1 target killing focused kit -Melee based

zed isn't squishy, he is melee based but has ranged poke and safe wave clear, he doesnt have to go in melee if he doesn't want to.

Indominus 13371 votes

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zed isn't squishy, he is melee based but has ranged poke and safe wave clear, he doesnt have to go in melee if he doesn't want to.

Zed isn't squishy? hehe xd. Yes he is. hehe xd.

If Zed doesn't go in melee, he won't do anything relevant, so you shouldn't complain hehe xd.

Thank god I am not low elo.

spombjop1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus 1337,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k9nqJfMO,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-18T11:09:58.115+0000)

Zed isn't squishy? hehe xd. Yes he is. hehe xd.

If Zed doesn't go in melee, he won't do anything relevant, so you shouldn't complain hehe xd.

Thank god I am not low elo.

item 3155 zed isn't squishy

Indominus 13371 votes

Any Zed that builds that item is bad, period. Glass cannon or uninstall, that is the name of the game.

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus 1337,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k9nqJfMO,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-18T11:19:04.357+0000)

Any Zed that builds that item is bad, period. Glass cannon or uninstall, that is the name of the game.

You say that like 50AD and +10 armor pen isnt good.

Indominus 13371 votes

Compared to other options, it isn't.

Paroe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus 1337,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k9nqJfMO,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-18T11:09:58.115+0000)

Zed isn't squishy? hehe xd. Yes he is. hehe xd.

If Zed doesn't go in melee, he won't do anything relevant, so you shouldn't complain hehe xd.

Thank god I am not low elo.

Oh. Yes, yes i see why youre so biased.

Youre an assassin main. specifically, your mains are zed/yasuo.

Indominus 13371 votes

hehe xd

???

Refute what I said, you can't.

Paroe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Indominus 1337,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k9nqJfMO,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-05-18T11:23:50.354+0000)

hehe xd

???

Refute what I said, you can't.

Refute what? Sorry, i dont use reddit view.

That assassins with waveclear arent healthy? Nah, riot proved that when they nerfed kha'zix into the ground. Talon also has mana problems and requires a lot AD to get rolling. his rake is more harass than farm until he gets a few items. Leblanc is a hyper mobile mage. Diana isnt even an assassin... Ekko is a mobile skirmisher.

Jeez now i remember why EUW is where youtubers go to make videos...

Indominus 13371 votes

Kha'Zix didn't get nerfed because of his waveclear lmao, Leblanc is an Assassin, not mage. Talon clears waves very well with his rake. Nothing you say is relevant, nothing you've said has refuted my points, hehe xd.

SKT T1 LaFlame2 votes

Yes, Kha'Zix did get nerfed because of his waveclear and poke when he built Manamune and played around his evolved W.

Indominus 13371 votes

Nope.

SKT T1 LaFlame2 votes

Yes. Notice how you're the only one that downvoted me because you're butthurt.

Phenyxs2 votes

Zed doesn't need nerfing. People need to learn how to play him and against him. Riot should just buff the tar heels out of him and shut everyone up. Him and Yasuo are always front runners I see for nerfs. Every patch they beg for the nerfs.

Paroe2 votes

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Zed doesn't need nerfing. People need to learn how to play him and against him. Riot should just buff the tar heels out of him and shut everyone up. Him and Yasuo are always front runners I see for nerfs. Every patch they beg for the nerfs.

theres a reason for that, and theres a reason people just dont like playing against them. But its okay, i mean its not like theyre both braindead champions who are some of the most hated in the game or anything. Its not like they have been consistently powerful, with only meta shifts bring them in and out of the limelight.

Nerfs is the wrong word as well. changes is what they need. Zed needs his Q and mobility reworked. Yasuo needs his wall and shield reworked.

Phenyxs1 votes

True. I play both when ever I can sneak them in a draft and the other team looks like a counter I wont sweat over or feed. Zed needs movement speed. He is so slow. Yasuo needs his wall re-looked at. I have all there skins. Project Yasuo is the only wall when put up I don't see debris coming in. His BloodMoon one and HighNoon I will put up his wall and once in awhile get hit still. So I use Project for now. Back to zed, they need to maybe look in to the movement by lvl like Cass. But there are several champions that I use movement quints on and still get swifty's and they still cant catch up to anyone or run away if trouble is in sight.

Vekkna1 votes

Zed needs MS per level because he can't catch anyone?

People need to learn how to play him

Have you tried using your item 3142 active?

People need to learn how to play him

Have you tried, y'know....hitting R and just teleporting to the enemy?

People need to learn how to play him

Or W and teleporting to the enemy?

People need to learn how to play him

Yes, buff Zed.

Penns1 votes

hehe xd*

Indominus 13371 votes

hehe xd

Vekkna1 votes

Pull up your man bun, drink yourself a few artisan microbrews, hop on your fixed gear bicycle, and go meet up with all your filthy fucking hipster friends to talk about how Zed is totally balanced, and his 80% ban rate in plat+ is proof that the game is full of idiots.

Unpaladin1 votes

Aren't you supposed to be banned, Tyler?

Maximum Morde1 votes

I don't care if they nerf him or not. I just want them to somehow bring his pick rate in line.

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