Is Garen's Regen OP

Wilyum··1 votes·1,482 views

Is his Regen I'm lane op? I don't play top often so I don't know. It seems like he runs away and comes back 15seconds later almost full health after being poked down. Is there a counter to this besides just constantly engaging with him? I'm trying to get into laning instead of jungling so helping me deal with Garen better will be a big help

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Infernape3 votes

For a champion that's meant to be courageous in lore, he sure does play like a coward lol

sneakydoug1 votes

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For a champion that's meant to be courageous in lore, he sure does play like a coward lol

Dying isn’t brave. It’s stupid. It’s unilaterally the worst strategic decision one can make in almost all cases.

rtbf695976141 votes

LMAO

Elite4Runner2 votes

I'll explain how Garen's passive is SUPPOSED to be fair.

Most top lane champions have sustain built into their kit.

Garen has a low-decent amount of Health Regeneration (hp5) at level 1, 8 health per 5 seconds.

His hp5 growth is tied with the third lowest figure in the game, +0.5 hp5 per level.

The two lowest are Aatrox Aatrox +0.25 who has a passive effect on his E that heals him based on the physical damage that he deal, which encourages him to remain in combat.

and Mordekaiser Mordekaiser +0.3 who gets MASSIVE heals from his W

He is tied with Soraka Riven Rengar Zilean Zyra Zac Rakan Pyke Jinx Kassadin Taric Cassiopeia Gragas Akali

Of these, only Riven Zac Pyke Taric Gragas are really even loosely considered viable top laners.

All of the others CAN be played top lane all but of them are significantly better in other positions.

Of these 5, Riven is the only one that doesn't have any built in sustain or healing abilities, which is why it is so important for her to build lifesteal.

So if Garen is not able to trigger his passive, he has some of the weakest sustain in the game.

Playing against Garen, you want to keep him in combat as much as possible.

That does not mean you want to constantly trade with him! He will out trade you!

Most other top laners also have some form of ranged ability / harassment / poke.

Poke, get him to trigger his abilities, disengage while he runs at you, while his abilities are down, trade. He will try to disengage, let him. Then poke him again before his passive comes back up. .. repeat.

Eventually he will be too low to engage and he will need to leave the lane or you will kill or zone him off completely.

DeracadaVenom1 votes

How garen works is your playing a melee too and you jump him, then you try to run away but he starts spinning and you can get out of his spin range

And it’s not OP It’s just semiOPGaren

Wilyum1 votes

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How garen works is your playing a melee too and you jump him, then you try to run away but he starts spinning and you can get out of his spin range

And it’s not OP It’s just semiOPGaren

Neat cause playing like Nasus and then slowing him and he just presses q then runs me down like the dog I am kinda tilted me so I tried illaoi against one and he just went into bush then 15 seconds later comes out full health after I chunk him down

DeracadaVenom1 votes

I’ve never played nasus and with Illaoi I kind of just hit everything once and it dies

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Neat cause playing like Nasus and then slowing him and he just presses q then runs me down like the dog I am kinda tilted me so I tried illaoi against one and he just went into bush then 15 seconds later comes out full health after I chunk him down

have you tried not slowing him until AFTER he pressed q?

plus, why are you complaining that he retreats? isnt that what you want as nasus? not fight your opponent and just stack?

5050BS1 votes

Not its his 1.5s Silence and his spin.... and the massive damage reduction he has on demand.

sneakydoug1 votes

The trick is to ignore Garen after level 11 when his passive really kicks in and join your team and you almost definitely have a better team fight composition, because Garen is literally the worst. And then you either force the Garen into teamfights or you take his base.

Gg

rtbf695976141 votes

heyy i mained garen in s 7 my first season ever he was not so strong now he is living warmogs he counters every assasin you can ez play him mid lane vs zed he wont kill you once how to beat him is constant poke my opinion is that he is 1 of 4 most broken champions in game his q too much dmg his w too much tanky his r true dmg disqussting so when i face him in lane as some squishy like zed talon riven if i dont kill him 2 times first 10 min i just push wawe and roam and let adc or somebody else to deal with him bcs his regen is retarded counters to him are teemo quinn jayce basicly range champs that can poke him out and make him not get items fast renekton is good meele bcs sustain if you have garen who goes tanky i think you have 55% chance to win vs enemy it is 100% correct

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