Exactly what the title says, it really sucks to do well against Garen, be winning a duel/fight/trade and then have him press R and 1/4 of your health is gone to Magic Damage. It really is annoying since you build armor against him then he just presses a button and 1/4 of your health is gone to AP. I am fine with it doing true damage to the villain by the way.
True Garen7 votesOne of the reasons why this would be a buff to Garen:
Garen already builds various kind of armor pen / armor reduction / lethality - Black Cleaver, LDR, Youmou's are all common Garen items BESIDES that his e shreds armor. It's a rare Garen who bothers with magic pen for his ult. If Garen ult did physical damage after his e armor shred (which is his iconic combo)...
We could eliminate the Villain mechanic in that case, maybe.
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=h8dWiKmx,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-12-03T16:36:04.398+0000)
We could eliminate the Villain mechanic in that case, maybe.
not even close. the villain mechanic also gives 1% max health true damage on auto attacks and spins against the target.
without this mechanic, he wouldnt even be capable of bringing a lot of champions into execute range.
so even if you improved his execute against everyone, hes still current garen against non villains, which isnt very good. the only thing that currently even makes him a juggernaut, is all the damage amp he gets against the villain.
which can make the mechanic just as frustrating for us garen players, when it either hits the wrong target, or a target that we cant reach.
Moody P4 votesthat'd be a buff to Garen, not a nerf.
sneakydoug3 votesThe return of AD Garen. Can’t wait.
MrFawknSunshine3 votesare you only building vs GAREN as a laner and not against the entire enemy comp?
hell there are two items that flat out counter his ult
1300 gold
3200 gold ( this counters the burst of his magic damage and true damage ult if you are villain
True Garen7 votesare you only building vs GAREN as a laner and not against the entire enemy comp?
hell there are two items that flat out counter his ult
You forgot Nullifying Orb mastery.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesyea but most people never take it
True Garen3 votesExactly what the title says, it really sucks to do well against Garen, be winning a duel/fight/trade and then have him press R and 1/4 of your health is gone to Magic Damage. It really is annoying since you build armor against him then he just presses a button and 1/4 of your health is gone to AP. I am fine with it doing true damage to the villain by the way.
Technically, not AP - just magic damage, scaling mostly with opponents missing health. (Would that it scaled with AP, though...)
hazerddex2 votesthat would make him worse then he already is. what he needs is a resource bar.
Warlord Rhinark1 votesthat would make him worse then he already is. what he needs is a resource bar.
Giving him an Energy bar doesn't sound that bad.
Crispy0Snake1 votesIt's so that he still has kill pressure if you just stack armour against him. Also his R scales on nothing but the missing health of his target so if he ults you at full hp then he's doing it wrong.
Also he calls down a sword from the gods of demacia or w/e so it's a magical heavenly sword, ergo, magical damage
