Taliyah got gutted?

Leo1024··3 votes·652 views

No I'm not complaining about the nerfs, while they suck she's still super viable, I picked her up again and man she still hurts! She still does great damage and although the Q nerf to minions sucks I think she's more balanced now. So she's still strong but why does she have a 43% win rate? She's still strong and not extremely difficult, look at my recent matches with her (ignore the men he game my idiot brother was playing lol) , still lots of kills and wins so why are people having such a hard time playing her? The nerfs weren't huge so why did she drop? She doesn't need buffs or she'll be broken again but I can't see why her win rate is so low.

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Siyther2 votes

they straight up killed the chick. damn near unplayable now period she loses to everyone and she has no wave clear now. The q change really sucks, she is already gated by the zones that it creates so she could only clear for so long to begin with now she has to spam q 3 times to clear one wave she cant roam cause she cant push the wave and when she does spam q to wave clear she either is outta mana or has so much worked ground she cant even do anything but auto attack. At least thats the way i feel about it.

Leo10241 votes

I was able to roam decently in my games, i kept winning against kat and yas too and theyre both super strong, i think her roam is nice because of long range ult ganks, they just reduced the waveclear so shes not afk mid all the time like she used to be, and waveclear isnt exclusive to your Q, E does good damage to minions and your enemy will miss out on cs since they dont wanna get caught by your W and have E do massive damage, i think shes fine after nerfs tbh

Siyther1 votes

i played her whn she came out and since the multi nerfs she feels weak as hell 2 me. Ive seen ppl having some success with her but she feels so bad compared to what she used to that i cant stand to play her . Could just be me though lol

Leo10241 votes

I picked her up a month back or so from hextech crafting, she seemed strong and she still is just her waveclear is nowhere near what it used to be

Leo10241 votes

I hate autocorrect, meant to say ignore the kench game not men

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Well some champs have to have a low winrate, it just happened that taliyah was one of them. idk

Boulderox1 votes

the nerfs weren't huge... her waveclear went from amazing to shit in one patch... and was nerfed on top of that

I can deal with the E nerf, but the beef i have with it is they have been nerfing early game and buffing late in many instances throughout the balancing scene. Gnar e nerf early, same late... as an example. But they never thought... Q 10/20/30/40/50% minion damage scaling. as her q was able to farm casters at lvl 1. which was a tad op. BOOM fixed, and kept her mid to late identity as a TwistedFate esq champ. but the fact is the reason she was nerfed was because she was doing what she was SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. pusing waves and roaming. and she was nerfed because of it...

from taliyah reveal "If she's winning trades and dodging ganks, Taliyah excels at pushing waves into towers with her area of effect attacks. Once she's pushed her wave, her passive lets her bust out her rock-board and surf over to a friendly lane with tremor-inducing speed. She'll cruise alongside the map's walls, constantly gaining movement speed before blasting into a buddy's lane. "

but now they removed it so she has to be standard mage laning, and a pretty weak lane compared to previous. Essentially nerfing the thing that made her what she was designed to do. And even before just making it the original 33% that it was when she was released NOPE 50-0

All i remember is playing her 1 game after she was nerfed and already was getting shit talked in champ select because she was garbage for losing to an Ahri.

And it sucks 2x as much as i played her and dedicated myself to playing her through thick and thin, but i can't even get through champ select without being tilted... which fucking works wonders with Ahri's bs kit.

they are currently buffing her on pbe by 1, nerfing early, buffing late >_> really riot... couldn't fucking do that when you nerfed her hard while a handful of champs were being love tapped...

Leo10241 votes

Damn those are good points, i like the Q scaling idea, riot shouldnt focus her late game yeah shes kinda squishy but even at 20% hp i turned and killed lux at 100%, at 3 items taliyah is a monster when played right, if they just let the Q scale shed be perfect again in my opinion, so in conclusion, fuck ahris bs kit

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