So Riot...that Taliyah W...You going to change it yet? It needs tweaks

InfinitexMortal·Jul 16, 2016·17 votes·1,375 views

Like why change it in the first place? For a company that punishes trolls so harshly, Riot, you sure like to troll your player-base with unnecessary and unasked for changes. Taliyah's W is awful now and makes you feel punished for playing her anymore. CHANGE IT BACK. We want her old W cast back. Don't kill her off like you did to poppy.

Also if you are going to keep it as vector casting can we atleast get the circle indicator back so we dont have to guess if it is going to hit and we can see how big it actually is. You didnt remove the circle on tibbers so why remove it on tali's w. I think that is the most frustrating part about it. Make it look the way it did with the circle indicator not just a small raticle

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inplaneJul 16, 20168 votes

As long as people want Vector Casting, the circle radius indicator cannot come back because that conflicts with the paradigm of it. As I've explained before, Vector Casting was not designed for circle-based skillshots. It's designed for line-based skillshots, hence why the targetting reticle doesn't suit Taliyah's W at all.

What we want is another form of Casting altogether, something Riot Zenon preferred and stuck to because he felt it was right for Taliyah. That is until people who played Taliyah once and didn't like her decided to file a complaint.

CaítlynJul 16, 20162 votes

"unasked for changes"

I seem to remember a lot of spam about how Taliyahs W was clunky and they should change it to make it work like Viktor. Or are you conveniently ignoring that?

TestificateJul 17, 20164 votes

those were largely people with 1-3 games on her i guarantee it. Myself and many others got used to the old one in a game or two, the new one is so much more difficult to land and objectively slower. not to mention how stupid it is to have it canceled by movement commands considering how important positioning on taliyah is. her playstyle and her w are so entirely different from viktors playstyle and laser that its ridiculous to demand the same casting method.

inplaneJul 17, 20161 votes

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"unasked for changes"

I seem to remember a lot of spam about how Taliyahs W was clunky and they should change it to make it work like Viktor. Or are you conveniently ignoring that?

I'm just curious, but can you link some of those posts people made? I want to see how experienced with Taliyah they are.

If you can't, that's fine. Did you look them up to see if they had at least Mastery level 4 on them?

Serpents EmbraceJul 17, 20161 votes

unnecessary and unasked for changes

Where were you when the boards were flooded with topics asking for this exact thing?

JynweithekJul 17, 20161 votes

Playing Taliyah probably... I know I was. Unlike the people who were on the boards asking for the change to vector cast.

inplaneJul 17, 20161 votes

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Where were you when the boards were flooded with topics asking for this exact thing?

Pretty sure someone already explained it in Caitlyn's very own "Discussion" a while back. I'll quote him for clarity:

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A bunch of people who didn't like Taliyah were asking to change Taliyah into something they liked. Meanwhile, a bunch of players were actually playing Taliyah instead of posting on the boards because they liked her. When Riot changed Taliyah to appeal to people who didn't play her, suddenly her players had a reason to go to the boards.